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  1. #171
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    RykerSteel's Avatar
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    Ryker Steel
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teleniel View Post
    Reasons to not sub: Impatience
    -You can't stand content caps (Coil Lockout / Myth cap / leve allowance)
    -You think the entire game is a Grind (so... without repeating content how are you supposed to make something last for months?)
    -You think that you're the only one who has long dungeon finder queues (seriously everyone wants to play a DPS so there are just aren't that many tanks/healers to go around) (you want to do content in prime time / just after a reset... so EVEN MORE people want to do it too)


    Reasons to Sub: Plenty
    You've heard there are new dungeons coming (as lv50 content these will likely reward Tomestones)
    -24 man Raid, duty-finder accessible
    -2 new Hard-Mode dungeons
    -1 new level 50 dungeon
    You've heard that Vanity Slots and Housing are coming to an Erozea near you.

    I'm not saying the game is perfect... I don't like Fate grinding so I just grind my jobs differently but it isn't going to have everything that game you played for 7+ years had at release. If you can't give it time, then don't but when something is announced on the horizon don't have a hissy fit that you don't have it today, or that it should have been included with release. The game was restructured, and it's a HUGE leap up from 1.0 in terms of accessibility and playability. Those of us that will give it time I'm sure will be rewarded for even just a few months of patience.

    also... if you don't sub don't complain if you're behind if you decide to come back in a few months. We might help you but you decided to walk away.
    You can be patient and not sub. Makes no sense to sub if you're not enjoying the current experience and won't get much playtime out of the product, due of glaring issues(discussed in this thread) that have yet to be acknowledged or addressed. Your reasons for subscribing have no bearing on the gameplay experience now. Very little of it addresses ongoing issues that people are having with the game, unless 'lack of content' is their only issue. If the dev team is smart, they will have catch up mechanisms in place to get people up to speed for 2.1 content. Your assistance, as valued as you think it may be, will probably be unnecessary. However, I don't expect the current dev team to adopt common sense, when many of their design choices seem completely detached from the streamlined experience that was the first 50 levels of the game.

    Reward shouldn't come from having to endure an unenjoyable experience. You should be rewarded in entertainment value for having bought the game and being a current player. It's is anyones best interest to not sub if they aren't having fun. Future content will come whether you stay subscribed or not, as long as enough people stick around to support the development costs. I would still love to hear the dev team acknowledge the decision to make fate-grinding the primary way to level in this game, as well as the ping issues, and blanket rmt banning, and how they plan to address these, and many more valid concerns. No amount of promised content in the future will make these concerns any less important.
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    Last edited by RykerSteel; 10-08-2013 at 04:22 AM.

  2. #172
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    Pr0c3ss0r's Avatar
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    Fenrir Ilax
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    -24 man Raid, duty-finder accessible
    Oh god, 23 chance:
    -That a cry baby will ruin the run.
    -That someone will AFK at start.

    GL with that, they better add a kick/ban button before they release that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuz View Post
    Which is a really, really good thing.
    What i was saying is, they ignore the RMT issue, is not they priority at all, in fact, it should be they prio #1 as it ruin the entire game...
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    Last edited by Pr0c3ss0r; 10-08-2013 at 04:08 AM.

  3. #173
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    BlazeChronic's Avatar
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    Blaze Chronic
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Love the game, I loved XI and I actually really liked 1.0 ...

    Call me a fanboy, but I'm subbing for sure, biggest option they have, veteran rewards, 360 days, Yes, Please.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Oh god, 23 chance:
    -That a cry baby will ruin the run.
    -That someone will AFK at start.

    GL with that, they better add a kick/ban button before they release that.
    It's going to be glorious. lol.

    Edit: Back to the topic at hand.
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    Last edited by RykerSteel; 10-08-2013 at 04:20 AM.

  5. #175
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    Za'karn Riskbreaker
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    Marauder Lv 90
    There is more to this game than just grinding. You get out of it what you put into it, just like life. People expect the world to entertain them, why not entertain yourself?

    How would any of you survived before computers and consoles?
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  6. #176
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    Tomiangu's Avatar
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    Miguanto Antomigu
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 32
    I subbed because I like the game design (graphics) and I was always a fan of FF games and movies. I am only lvl. 32 so my opinion may change once I hit 50 but for now the game has enough variety for me to stay entertained. Usually in any MMO I did stay with one class and leveled that one character to cap. I may have tried another class but basically always stuck to range classes i.e. rangers/archers. In this game I had to, in order to get the cross class skill, level three other classes, which I normally wouldn't have done, to that level anyway. I also never did crafting, but here I had to in order to use materia.
    I like the way the game gets one to do different tasks so one doesn't/shouldn't race to end game. Yes, DF is a pain as DPS but I think they will fix this over time. Also I agree with the OP about the Fate grinding. I have seen several groups in one area going from Fate to Fate. XP from them should be lowered and maybe leveled with dungeons..
    So far I enjoy this game and will continue my sub..
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    Last edited by Tomiangu; 10-08-2013 at 04:55 AM. Reason: over 1000 char...

  7. #177
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    Vindrax's Avatar
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    Vindrax Shadow
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiangu View Post
    I also never did crafting, but here I had to in order to use materia.
    Just a note about this, you actually don't have to level crafting to use materia, you can find another crafter on your server and request materia melds from them. It's usually customary to tip said crafter, but a lot will do it for free just to help a fellow adventurer out.
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  8. #178
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    Kurauk's Avatar
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    Kura Yamino
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    @OP all very valid points and I completely agree. Something that absolutely enrages me is the community. That and peoples inability not to stand in red stuff. It's such an old mechanic yet I see people running through it when they weren't even in it in the first place. People jumping around in it, I guess they think it won't hit them if they go Neo on it?! After being in a group "trying" to kill Chimera, yep that's right Chimera, I just flipped had to log out. Why are people so bloody stupid? I get the old connection issue, but there's a different between trying and just standing in it, or walking in to it. That and the amount of gil sellers/spammers that seem to have found away around the blacklist, teleporting whilst mining. I just give up. I wanted to love this game as much as I loved XI, but I can't it's like people went from being pretty intelligent to brainless wastes of organs in a few years.
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    "How do you prove that we exist? Maybe we don't exist.." --Vivi

  9. #179
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    Elephtheria's Avatar
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    Kyouka Suigetsu
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    It's not so much the grinding as it is the 45 minutes+ wait times I have to endure for the class I WANT to play, not the ones I HAVE to play in order to get instant queues.
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  10. #180
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    Primula Solheim
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 98
    I decided a long time ago that I'd give 2.0 at least a few months, but I don't think I will be renewing after that unless I really like the next two patches, because of:

    1. Lag. When I pay careful attention and manage to avoid AOE's, but get hit anyway, it is incredibly discouraging. Needless to say, endgame looks extremely unappealing.
    2. Poor customer support. I want to know I can count on help if I really need it.
    3. Alt-unfriendliness (mind you, this is a matter of preference). I enjoy being able to do all that I want on one main character, and I'm no alt-aholic, but having even two characters in this game is too much of a PITA and SE clearly intends for it to be that way.
    4. Bots/gil spammers. And all of the accompanying economy/account security issues.

    I will enjoy it while I have a sub, but I don't think I will be playing enough later on to want to renew.
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