Toxic endgame community...

[Nuinn]

Making a shout party for speed runs is one thing.... Everyone knows before joining what they're in for. Using DF and expecting the rest of your random party to follow the rules you set, pretty much for yourself only when you queued, is what baffles me. DF = expect everything, including cutscenes not being skipped, people having sub-par gear, others not knowing the strat, trolling etc.

Sorry, but if you DF it you HAVE the right to whine about someone slowing down "your" run, just as they have the right to not give a *beep*. Insults and harassment, however, should be reported.

[Tyrial]

DF = expect everything, including cutscenes not being skipped, people having sub-par gear, others not knowing the strat, trolling etc.

I'll agree with most of this, but people should at least have the decency to NOT queue for select instances when they flat out know they're under geared. The gear score requirement that's coming will help remedy this slightly, but people also need to have not only common sense, but common courtesy as well. Hopping in queue for Titan HM (for example) while wearing a mix of AF and pinks from Aurum Vale is totally unacceptable, be it a shout group or a DF group.

[Shirai]

I'll agree with most of this, but people should at least have the decency to NOT queue for select instances when they flat out know they're under geared. The gear score requirement that's coming will help remedy this slightly, but people also need to have not only common sense, but common courtesy as well. Hopping in queue for Titan HM while wearing a mix of AF and pinks from Aurum Vale is totally unacceptable, be it a shout group or a DF group.

This is one thing I have no problems with people raging about.
Fortunately, as you say yourself as well, there is a sollution coming for that. I just hope Yoshi-kun and his crew implement this correctly.

[Nuinn]

I'll agree with most of this, but people should at least have the decency to NOT queue for select instances when they flat out know they're under geared. The gear score requirement that's coming will help remedy this slightly, but people also need to have not only common sense, but common courtesy as well. Hopping in queue for Titan HM (for example) while wearing a mix of AF and pinks from Aurum Vale is totally unacceptable, be it a shout group or a DF group.

That's true, unless they really are clueless and have no idea what to expect from that fight but, after flooring it for the first time in hodgepodge sets they should get a clue (key word: should). Overall, people should have more decency in general, when dealing with others, imho. At least the DF issues are going to be somewhat remedied by the incoming gear score check.

[Rivienne]

That's true, unless they really are clueless and have no idea what to expect from that fight but, after flooring it for the first time in hodgepodge sets they should get a clue (key word: should). Overall, people should have more decency in general, when dealing with others, imho. At least the DF issues are going to be somewhat remedied by the incoming gear score check.

I had no idea that I was undergeared going in to titan (story mode!) the first time and everything was so chaotic I didn't realize it until my second go through. I went overboard after that and got a bit overgeared, and then realized it didn't matter in general. Why? Because till that point I could literally carry almost any group once I knew a fight. My gear never once mattered that much before that fight. Honestly it still doesn't matter in most fights. It is the unavoidable damage that determines gear requirements and not much else, and in most dungeons there is little in the way of heavy damage that is truly unavoidable once you learn the fight.

So Titan is this weird standalone extreme gear check fight amidst the rest of the dungeons and primals (I haven't been to coil, though I am told it has heavy gear check as well), so it is understandable that a lot of people don't know they aren't ready.