Wrongfull suspended for 1 week, then gil removed. SE CS does not want to know.

[scarebearz]

People seem to forget that top crafter and top gatherer were often the only provider for the whole server for certain tier of stuff and thus made a lot of money out of it. I got rich selling stuff at no higher than 13k a piece, I just sold a whole lot to a lot of people.

Exactly, I got to 8mil or so with mostly sales under 10k.

We got suspended and our gil taken due to an automated program, not due to any actual investigation by a GM.

[Aureliami]

The main problem is US and SE.
If there is some pepeol that are buying Gils its because the game it self does not generate enough gils. SE fault.
A.H item are sometime sold to high or to low. Community fault.
Just like you state


main quest give you around 200k and some pepeol sell item for 100k. thats 50% of the money non-crafter gatherer will make. so at some time they will end up fast out of money. so they turn to RMT for support. You end-up with the RMT gils because you support high cost of item @ AH And SE support RMT by not giving enough way to generate Gils.

People were more than happy to pay upwards of 200k of the 250-300k they made leveling up to get the relic quest weapon made for them. Just do 10 of these sales per day and you're up to 14mil in 1 week. All 100% legit money that people got from quests while leveling.

Same goes for stuff like level 50 crafting gear, they only cost 50k a piece so it's easy for crafters to afford these pieces just off the money they got leveling their crafts to 50 if they did leves or sold the items they made on the market.

[Lucke]

Could crafters do face-to-face business instead of using the Market Board? You know who your buyer is, and you may not get banned because the sale wasn't recorded on the Market history. Sure it's more tedious, but if it stops people from getting banned, may be worth it.

[Clint]

Does anyone have the Phone number to the support for Enix

[scarebearz]

Could crafters do face-to-face business instead of using the Market Board? You know who your buyer is, and you may not get banned because the sale wasn't recorded on the Market history. Sure it's more tedious, but if it stops people from getting banned, may be worth it.

Thanks for the suggestion, it may help, but to be honest we still don't have any way of knowing if the buyer bought gil or not, it's also a lot more hassle and would result in loads of shout spam from crafter's. :/

[lordjoosie]

Could crafters do face-to-face business instead of using the Market Board? You know who your buyer is, and you may not get banned because the sale wasn't recorded on the Market history. Sure it's more tedious, but if it stops people from getting banned, may be worth it.

Should definately help. But only if you also face West, and stand on 1 leg, while kwehing like a chocobo.

How many posts are going to be made spreading this rumor that people were targeted because a gil buyer bought their stuff from the market board? 10 seconds of thought should make you realize how silly this idea is. Given the amount of regular and hq items that I and people like me (who weren't suspended) sold on the MB, a percentage of which most definitely were bought with dirty gil. There would have been thousands more suspensions. Also consider that quite a few of those suspended were gatherers with less than a million gil, and no large MB sales.

If we're ever going to come close to figuring out why people were targeted, and prevent false positives, we need to stick with only what we know to be facts. Rumors like this one, the over 8 mil rumor, the SE purposely nuking peoples accounts they know did nothing wrong to make an example to RMTs rumor, and others just confuse the issue.

[scarebearz]

The over 10mil on non legacy servers / over 2mill on the very new servers, in *On Hand* Gil, does seem to be holding true.

[lordjoosie]

I'm not going to be specific but I can tell you I had more than 2 mil. My brother had more than 10. My LS mate had somewhere in the 12 region. Non legacy server. And 2 people I can think of, maybe 3 on this forum said they never even hit a mil.

To be fair though we can't discount some kind of gil check. They could have done the check 2 weeks or 10 days after launch, and waited to ban. For the first 2 weeks I never had more than 100k on hand. The few who had low gil could have been nailed for different reasons, or they could be cheaters. We can be sure though it wasn't a gil check at the time of suspension or within a few days of it.

[Yoseph]

ohh...nooo.....my goo'ness does it hurt

anyone who had any activity with RMT was flagged...yup...you got 100k from a moneylaundering junkie and turned it into millions....ohhh mmyyyyy....learn your lesson and move on...they got you dead to rights....at least you still have your account...

[KevinC]

ohh...nooo.....my goo'ness does it hurt

anyone who had any activity with RMT was flagged...yup...you got 100k from a moneylaundering junkie and turned it into millions....ohhh mmyyyyy....learn your lesson and move on...they got you dead to rights....at least you still have your account...

Thanks for the input SE fanboy, your insight is always welcome and accurate. It's easy to see you must have thought A LOT before posting. Oh and thanks for reading the posts since last friday, it sure shows.