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  1. #51
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    David Cox
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    Still won't get you over 300 DPS like a lot of these SMNs are claiming. Parser is wholly inaccurate and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick until we get the developer API for addons later on in the year. Then and ONLY then will we start to see real numbers on parsers.
    Dots: 100dps, Garuda: 50dps, Flare: 23dps, Fester: 53dps, Ruin: 56dps| Total: 282 and i'm in shitty gear. It is worth noting that my dps will be slightly lowered due to not spamming all abilities 100% of the time, with that being said my gear is also no where near a SMN in AF+2. It is quite conceivable that a SMN in AF+2 gear could be hitting over 300dps.
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  2. #52
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic4u View Post
    Dots: 100dps, Garuda: 50dps, Flare: 23dps, Fester: 53dps, Ruin: 56dps| Total: 282 and i'm in shitty gear. It is worth noting that my dps will be slightly lowered due to not spamming all abilities 100% of the time, with that being said my gear is also no where near a SMN in AF+2. It is quite conceivable that a SMN in AF+2 gear could be hitting over 300dps.
    These numbers are all wrong. You're not taking into account recasting/casting your DoTs to refresh. Just because your fully stacked DoTs (which I'm guessing you're using Thunder as well which is yet another DoT to refresh) are doing 300 per tick, it doesn't equate to 100 DPS. In a vacuum, yea, where you have no cast time, infinite DoT timers, and 100% uptime. But that isn't the current case. I'm sorry to say, my previous statement still stands. We all need an actual REAL parser to get the REAL numbers. You are not doing 282 DPS in your gear, not by a long shot.
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  3. #53
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    Ashlae Lori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestine View Post
    So bards are the worst dps? uh no
    in terms of RAW DMG yes they are lack luster compared to others, its not the dps that is enticing, its the zero penalty on movement song stacking
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  4. #54
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    David Cox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    These numbers are all wrong. You're not taking into account recasting/casting your DoTs to refresh. Just because your fully stacked DoTs (which I'm guessing you're using Thunder as well which is yet another DoT to refresh) are doing 300 per tick, it doesn't equate to 100 DPS. In a vacuum, yea, where you have no cast time, infinite DoT timers, and 100% uptime. But that isn't the current case. I'm sorry to say, my previous statement still stands. We all need an actual REAL parser to get the REAL numbers. You are not doing 282 DPS in your gear, not by a long shot.
    Um, 300 damage/3secs=? If you are waiting until your dots fall off to recast them as a summoner then something is wrong. I also noted in my post that dps will be lower due to efficiency. These numbers were tested in AK on a Dullahan. Even if you take out ruin spam. You are still getting pretty good damage.
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  5. #55
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    Hongyue Hua
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    At that moment, if we wanted monks to be competitive in terms of DPS, bosses should be immobile and have no aoe spells around them.
    GL buff mechanic does not work with, i guess, any of the endgame encounters.

    A shame. Monk is a fun job to play but ,somehow, when you can't be in ranged for more than 10 seconds, plus you add terrible lag server, well i understand why very few people play monk and/or are least wanted for endgame.
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  6. #56
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    Varin Athers
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    My main is a BLM and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I decided to make a secondary BRD though since I've heard they are really useful towards the end of the game, and it seems like I'll be the only BRD for a while in my FC. From what I know the BRD is super easy to play as and they're a great asset to any team, especially towards the end game.
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  7. #57
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    Zero Six
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponkipon View Post
    At that moment, if we wanted monks to be competitive in terms of DPS, bosses should be immobile and have no aoe spells around them.
    GL buff mechanic does not work with, i guess, any of the endgame encounters.

    A shame. Monk is a fun job to play but ,somehow, when you can't be in ranged for more than 10 seconds, plus you add terrible lag server, well i understand why very few people play monk and/or are least wanted for endgame.


    stop talking out your rear man... A lot of coil groups want monk, as it caps out as top dps. You do not even have a 50 monk...

    I hate when people make post like this to try and get un-needed buffs. The GL buff could use slight tweaking, but the end of the world post you made is completely false.
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    Last edited by Zerosix; 10-06-2013 at 05:36 AM.

  8. #58
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic4u View Post
    Um, 300 damage/3secs=? If you are waiting until your dots fall off to recast them as a summoner then something is wrong. I also noted in my post that dps will be lower due to efficiency. These numbers were tested in AK on a Dullahan. Even if you take out ruin spam. You are still getting pretty good damage.
    Did you just completely miss what I said? You pulling 282 DPS in your gear is complete and utter BS.
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    Is this a bad time to say that as a SCH I'm pulling 260+ DPS on titan? In cleric stance ofc.
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    Snuggles Unicorn
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    Did you just completely miss what I said? You pulling 282 DPS in your gear is complete and utter BS.
    It's not even about the parser. SMN dots tick for 500+ every 3 seconds if you're geared, and even more when RS is up. If you did nothing else but keep your dots refreshed and didn't use your pet, that's 170 dps. Ruin hits for more than 200, so even if we round it down to 200, that's an extra 80~ dps.

    So, let's ignore crits and 1k+ Festers to make up for the GCD's that you'll spend refreshing dots, and that's 250 DPS. With Relic+1 and some Allagan/AF2, Garuda DPS is enough to push you well over 300dps.
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