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  1. #1
    Player
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    There is no puzzle its just filler trash floor, with no loot. Look at the drop thread all the drops have pretty much been accounted for except for the ones that have been suspected to drop from turn 5 and the number of items in the instance works out.
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    Zenny Zimba
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    There is no puzzle its just filler trash floor, with no loot. Look at the drop thread all the drops have pretty much been accounted for except for the ones that have been suspected to drop from turn 5 and the number of items in the instance works out.
    All the drops can be dropped in more than 1 Turn, spare Turn 5. Just suggests that having coffers in Turn 3 means more chances to get what drops in Turn 1 and Turn 2. Just because it hasn't been discovered, doesn't mean it's doesn't exist. Having padding in such a high level dungeon feels too wrong, besides no other dungeon has awkward non-aggressive creatures which can be pulled downward to new other levels in the dungeon.
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mecan View Post
    All the drops can be dropped in more than 1 Turn, spare Turn 5. Just suggests that having coffers in Turn 3 means more chances to get what drops in Turn 1 and Turn 2. Just because it hasn't been discovered, doesn't mean it's doesn't exist. Having padding in such a high level dungeon feels too wrong, besides no other dungeon has awkward non-aggressive creatures which can be pulled downward to new other levels in the dungeon.
    There is actually set drops on each turn, there is no random on each floor. There are a confirmed 18 drops each from floors 1/2/4/5, none of these drops have been on multiple floors and anyone saying otherwise didn't read the item text right. There is nothing on turn 3 other than cheap potions that can be found on the ah for next to nothing, there is no secret hidden chests that have their own drop lists that are different than the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    There is actually set drops on each turn, there is no random on each floor. There are a confirmed 18 drops each from floors 1/2/4/5, none of these drops have been on multiple floors and anyone saying otherwise didn't read the item text right. There is nothing on turn 3 other than cheap potions that can be found on the ah for next to nothing, there is no secret hidden chests that have their own drop lists that are different than the rest.
    If you look at this chart, I don't see any reason why none of this stuff cannot drop on Turn 3.
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    Em Six
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecan View Post
    If you look at this chart, I don't see any reason why none of this stuff cannot drop on Turn 3.
    Aside from the fact that NO other turn has a shared loot pool you mean? Are you just ignoring overwhelming evidence just because you want to be right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecan View Post
    If you look at this chart, I don't see any reason why none of this stuff cannot drop on Turn 3.
    Except for the fact that the turn is nothing more than filler? I've seen the chart many times and use it along with other things to plan for upgrades, are you seriously trying to say that after hundreds of groups have made it to turn 3 and beyond(many of which have done research on the turn) that there could still be something there? 95% of all drops in coil people know exactly where they are all from(the remaining 5% take up the last slot for turns 2/4 and then the last 7 slots for turn 5), it is confirmed there are 18 non random drops in each of the 4 loot dropping turns.

    I will post in this thread all I want saying "it's pointless filler" when there is vast overwhelming evidence that says it is so. You can spend hours or days on this all you want but it will never amount to anything more than what hundreds of groups clearing 1-3+ already know.
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 10-06-2013 at 12:53 PM.