Lv.44 Cutscene question,Cids Googles [Spoiler]

[Zhenya]

Cool to see other people had the same question I had about this scene.
Since I do t have any additional story to back other theories right now I have to go with the inception theory that he used the echo to bring the memories out and for whatever reason he had to alter that part of his memory to do so. But this might play into the fact that NO ONE CAN REMEMBER THE HEROS OF LIGHT just what they did.

[Sapphidia]

I saw this scene as partly metaphorical, and partly your character playing around a little.

From what i understand, the Echo is purely used to see into the past, but you CAN interact with people in the memory, but it doesnt affect any outcomes. You didn't -actually- give Cid his goggles. You merely alerted Cid to your ability to see into his memories, and giving him the goggles was symbolic of showing that you were the one who managed to help him regain his memories in the church in camp drybone.

It's certainly not literally that your character travelled in time and gave him goggles. And Cid's "it was you.." was more him understanding that you have the power of the Echo and were just then able to see his past.

[Zhenya]

I saw this scene as partly metaphorical, and partly your character playing around a little.

From what i understand, the Echo is purely used to see into the past, but you CAN interact with people in the memory, but it doesnt affect any outcomes. You didn't -actually- give Cid his goggles. You merely alerted Cid to your ability to see into his memories, and giving him the goggles was symbolic of showing that you were the one who managed to help him regain his memories in the church in camp drybone.

It's certainly not literally that your character travelled in time and gave him goggles. And Cid's "it was you.." was more him understanding that you have the power of the Echo and were just then able to see his past.

I like this it hurts my brain less and makes the most sense to me.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

Cool to see other people had the same question I had about this scene.
Since I do t have any additional story to back other theories right now I have to go with the inception theory that he used the echo to bring the memories out and for whatever reason he had to alter that part of his memory to do so. But this might play into the fact that NO ONE CAN REMEMBER THE HEROS OF LIGHT just what they did.

actually as a legacy player he does remember me in the cutscene since i rode the enterprise before with him into an epic battle so hes like heeeey. i have done this before.. and you where there too! then goes on telling you there is no need to spread the word that the warriors of light are back since it could alert enemies

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

From what i understand, the Echo is purely used to see into the past, but you CAN interact with people in the memory, but it doesnt affect any outcomes. You didn't -actually- give Cid his goggles. You merely alerted Cid to your ability to see into his memories, and giving him the goggles was symbolic of showing that you were the one who managed to help him regain his memories in the church in camp drybone.

It's certainly not literally that your character travelled in time and gave him goggles. And Cid's "it was you.." was more him understanding that you have the power of the Echo and were just then able to see his past.

the problem with this theory is that he starts remembering how long has he WORE thoes googles.. and remembers getting them from you, there were no material googles until your shiny self gave it to them in the past, from all the time he is remembering there are no googles until you show up.

[Rannie]

Then that's pulls up the question of where did you get those goggles. Problem is you didn't get them from him before you go into the echo because he puts them back on afterwards... I really think its more a symbolism at this point in time than anything. You didn't magically conjur a pair up and he didn't give you his when you went to the past in the echo also he does have that third eye thing so the memory of "handing" him the goggles as someone else I think pointed out could be you metaphorically offering him a "helping hand" with his memories.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

Then that's pulls up the question of where did you get those goggles. Problem is you didn't get them from him before you go into the echo because he puts them back on afterwards... I really think its more a symbolism at this point in time than anything. You didn't magically conjur a pair up and he didn't give you his when you went to the past in the echo also he does have that third eye thing so the memory of "handing" him the goggles as someone else I think pointed out could be you metaphorically offering him a "helping hand" with his memories.

there is a possibility that a you from the future aquired thoes googles somhow then used the echo,gave him thoes googles and in the present since cid is remembering next to you how he got thoes googles you withness a memory on CId wher an echo of you in the future gives cid of the past the googles he is remembering in the present.....

mind blown!..

i guess the symbolic side works too..

[Rannie]

That's the thing though I doubt a future self is doing a double echo when he looks at you you're being pulled into the echo and the only time I've seen an echo within an echo is from 1.0 and you get pulled into acillia's memories when that elezen guy was killed and its up backlashing and knocking both you and thancred onto your butts and that one wasn't even realy envolving you. It is a possibility but even you nod and smile at cid when he said that light was you

[Kayokane]

I just rewatched the cutscene today, I definately heard a second echo 'whoosh' at the time the player appears in form to give Cid his goggles... So it is a possibility... but Rannie has a point the only double echos in 1.0 were going into the memory of someone while you were in a memory. Damned echo is always contridicting it's own logic.

[Renvalt]

It could have been Hydaelyn giving Cid the Goggles - I mean, the power of the Echo is technically her domain. She bestowed it on us for a reason - if it was truly as significant as claimed, everyone in Eorzea (by which I mean the NPCs, not us players) would have it. But they don't, and the story assumes that only the person playing is the bearer of the Echo (it assumes everyone else in your party has a kind of "standing to the side" role, and are thus not important).