Can't be serious...

[luciferbelmont]

This generation of gamers keeps getting sadder and sadder

[Vonleo]

I agree people complained about these "elitist" using DF to speed run and were told to make their own parties if they wanted to speed run so...they did exactly that and still they get crapped on. So what next? they have to "examine" each player in town and send a tell? this is getting ridiculous. You think the "elitist" are bad look how you "casual" players are acting just as bad if not worse. Take a look in the mirror people!!

[Devostif]

I keep seeing on these forums that if you want to have restrictions to who you want to have in your party make your own party, don't join a DF etc etc.. So someone makes their own party and people are still complaining... Sweet Jesus, gamers are becoming mentally stunted. He did exactly the right thing. I probably fall under the casual definition ATM, so please don't be generalizing this to a certain gaming group, this is more to do with gamers really just sitting back and thinking in a logical manner for once. I also need to stay off these forums, coming on here and reading the over dramatic post titles and logic deficient comments, it is the equivalent of opening up my skull and punching myself in the brain over and over again.

[Lelouch001]

I agree people complained about these "elitist" using DF to speed run and were told to make their own parties if they wanted to speed run so...they did exactly that and still they get crapped on. So what next? they have to "examine" each player in town and send a tell? this is getting ridiculous. You think the "elitist" are bad look how you "casual" players are acting just as bad if not worse. Take a look in the mirror people!!

They'll look in the mirror and see nothing wrong because casuals think they can do no wrong and whine about everything.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

They'll look in the mirror and see nothing wrong because casuals think they can do no wrong and whine about everything.

It's the same for the so-called elistists.
You know why? They both merge in a bigger pool of people called "jerks".

[Deusteele]

At what point did you forget that the Final Fantasy MMO crowd is one of the most elitist, Min/Maxing, and arrogant around? Get used to it, this is how FFXI has ran for years.

[Kayo]

They'll look in the mirror and see nothing wrong because casuals think they can do no wrong and whine about everything.

No, its because casuals tend to let people enjoy the content thats there. Casuals arent usually the ones nerd-raging at anyone for playing the game as its meant to be. A casuals may skip cutscenes and play on PC, but they dont go batshit crazy because someone guy wants to see cutscenes or is maybe on PS3. Casuals realize its a video game, not a second life. One where you lose some, win some, and progress as you play, not play to progress. Thats why hardcore speedrunners and other "go away, im too good for you" elitists arent liked much, theyre usually the drama queens causing all this negativity from the stress, anger and frustration they somehow allow themselves to get over a video game.

I personally dont care about what theyre doing in OP, its their choice ... but they still come off as being elitists looking down their nose at others thinking theyre not good enough to play with them.

[Zer0]

In general it's the same as other MMO's not allowing people with crappy connections and bad computers. I'm sorry but PS3 is just old, you wouldn't want somebody on a computer from 2004 playing this game?

[Rivienne]

Why is it a problem if speed runners want specific players to group with? Doesn't it make sense to prefer like minded people in your group? I have no problem with these people shouting for those that fit their criteria. They choose to play they way they want to, with whom they wish. Isn't that the point of an MMO and pre-formed parties? That you can group with those who share a common interest with you? In this case the common interest is to be as over geared as possible, so they can run the dungeon as fast as possible, the same reason for excluding PS3 I presume (which is sad, but it is true that CS have a load delay).

So long as they are not preventing others from doing the same, or violating the ToS, who does it hurt?

[Genfar]

Well while a lot might complain and say its not hurting anything, lets go ahead and leave it at that for a few months without any kind of resolve and see what happens. Here are my bets on outcomes at least how I see it. . . .

- It gets more so to a point that you will never find a group willing to let you watch cutsceens, going into dungeons for story quests become way to time consuming and making you waste days because no one wants someone new to the dungeon, PS3 users just plain end up only able to go around with other PS3 users due to no one on pc wanting them. ( note this is like a very unlikly extreme case but it could happen. )

- Other games come out that people get felt more to leave for due to this game community getting to a point worse that what Nexon forums were way before they started getting regulated.