Relic+1, yay or nay?

[AridElf]

if Twin was actually doable then yes I'd rather be able to pump out as much as possible but Square seems fairly fine leaving it as is till 2.1 where they may or may not address the fight so people can kill it.

I do recall reading that Yoshi (or another dev, I don't remember) said that they expect no more than 100 people to fully complete the Coil before 2.1 (due to the difficulty) but I don't recall reading anywhere saying that Twin needs to be 'fixed'. Link me if I'm wrong, I do like keeping up to date on this sort of stuff

[Pellegri]

I do recall reading that Yoshi (or another dev, I don't remember) said that they expect no more than 100 people to fully complete the Coil before 2.1 (due to the difficulty) but I don't recall reading anywhere saying that Twin needs to be 'fixed'. Link me if I'm wrong, I do like keeping up to date on this sort of stuff

There's a whole thread in the dungeon section where half of it is complaining just how broken half the mechanics in the fight are currently, no it is not a case of "well just change your strat" because with a good 50+ fcs on the fight and trying to progress everything has been tried at this point. Mechanics are preventing progress and as much as Square says otherwise their testing was done under "perfect" conditions where as on live there is lag or some other problem with half of it's mechanics(and no it is not just peoples computers or connections when everyone is having the same issues).

[Lux_Rayna]

Waste of mytho unless you really like the look of relic. For one, coil is balanced around ilvl80 gear. Your relic is ilvl80, so you can just farm binding coil for the ilvl90 weapon drop. There's no reason to +1 your relic now because no content requires it. Now if your luck is awful, or if you just really prefer the relic over the coil drop, go ahead and +1 it.

[Dorin]

The difference is noticeable from the normal relic. It's not something huge, but it's there and you can definitely feel it.

This is as a DPS.

[Pellegri]

Waste of mytho unless you really like the look of relic. For one, coil is balanced around ilvl80 gear. Your relic is ilvl80, so you can just farm binding coil for the ilvl90 weapon drop. There's no reason to +1 your relic now because no content requires it. Now if your luck is awful, or if you just really prefer the relic over the coil drop, go ahead and +1 it.

You're not farming coil though for weapon drops, no one is to be exact. Twintania drops weapons for every class and thus far not a single group in the world has killed him outside of an exploit, when they eventually fix his mechanics sure you could probably farm him for weapon drops but until then most people in groups worth mentioning that are on him will already all have their +1 weps which are equal to or slightly worse than his drops.

[Sterob]

Glow > everything

[Johnist]

1) +1 a relic only if the +1 will be better than your Allagan version (Bahamut's Coil).
2) The +1 Gae Bolg remains the better item when compared to the Allagan weapon for DRG. However the Allagan weapon for MNK is better than their +1.
3) Is 3 Weeks of farming AK (7 AK runs + 5 HM Ifrit = 300... 75 HM Ifrit = 300) worth it for you, or will you be running the Bahamut's Coil well before then?
4) PLD tend to +1 the shield as this takes only 300 (their sword is 600).

[UrbanLucrece]

You should get +1 sooner or later, just decide which you want first. The time it takes is ridicilous little.