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  1. #11
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    Explanations on why it can only display 5 is fine but while I wait for a UI modder to come up with a solution; I find it incredibly difficult to quickly identify nasty dots I have to dispel upon application. Only way to spot them atm is on the target bar, the party frames is a write off and cluttered with things I really don't need to see. Wtb ability to filter buffs on party frames please. Do I really need to see all of those? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Explanations on why it can only display 5 is fine but while I wait for a UI modder to come up with a solution; I find it incredibly difficult to quickly identify nasty dots I have to dispel upon application. Only way to spot them atm is on the target bar, the party frames is a write off and cluttered with things I really don't need to see. Wtb ability to filter buffs on party frames please. Do I really need to see all of those? Nope.
    Debuffs you can cleanse are always the furthest to the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Debuffs you can cleanse are always the furthest to the left.
    With the exception of Disease, which Minagawa-san has thankfully just said is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Debuffs you can cleanse are always the furthest to the left.
    Still does not show them on party frames if there is to many buffs already displayed. This is especially problematic on tanks and monks who usually have more than 5 active buffs going on which results in de-buffs getting knocked off the list.

    Last boss in AK is perfect example of that where tank will have 5+ buffs up and only way I can spot disease is either a) pre-emptively watching for boss to glow purple and que one up b) spotting it on the target bar instead.

    Currently, that dot gets bumped off the party frame list and that's what I am complaining about.

    Lastly, do I really need to see every single buff a player can have anyways on the party bars? Why can't I just have filters and only show what I want to see instead? Well, I guess I have to wait for a UI modder to fix all this.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-05-2013 at 07:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Still does not show them on party frames if there is to many buffs already displayed. This is especially problematic on tanks and monks who usually have more than 5 active buffs going on which results in de-buffs getting knocked off the list.
    But that's not true. Debuffs will always be pushed to the front (left) of the aura list, so even if your tank has Protect, Rampart, Convalescence, Adloquium, Fey Illumination, Sacred Soil, Whispering Dawn on him, if he is Paralyzed, that will always be visible at the front.

    The only exception to this is the Disease debuff, which has been acknowledged as a bug and should be fixed eventually.
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  6. #16
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    ... sooo PS3 limitations.. >.>;
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    But that's not true. Debuffs will always be pushed to the front (left) of the aura list, so even if your tank has Protect, Rampart, Convalescence, Adloquium, Fey Illumination, Sacred Soil, Whispering Dawn on him, if he is Paralyzed, that will always be visible at the front.

    The only exception to this is the Disease debuff, which has been acknowledged as a bug and should be fixed eventually.
    Then fine, it's a bug. Hope it gets fixed. However, I still really don't need to see all those buffs anyways. To much clutter displaying things on the party bar I don't need to see imo. If I do need to see them, then I could check the target bar, right? Current party bar has no options and needs them imo. I can list several other games that does it better and don't even need mods either. I'd be fine with just showing my buffs on target + debuffs and that's it. I can check the target bar for everything else. The over all ui design and options is one the best I seen but the party bars feel, incomplete.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-05-2013 at 07:38 AM.

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    All they need to add is a filter.. For the party frames all I want to see as a healer is the buffs I put up (not the other whm in the group, its a bitch to keep regen and stoneskin up) and the debuffs that esuna will cure. For my target bar all i wanna see is my dots on the target, or my buffs on the target player..

    Im sure dps would love to only see there dots.. there quick fix of green text was a horrible idea imo.

    i dont no why there complaining about showing so many, players dont wanna see so many they just wanna see the right ones..
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    Last edited by silverhope; 10-05-2013 at 07:47 AM.

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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    I think this more or less confirms the 30 debuff limit on monsters as well. There was another thread discussing how this can be problematic for 24 man groups.
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    Aven Pathfinder
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I am guessing when addons come out there will be an ability to have the players raid frame change a different color when they have a debuff like WoW addons do.
    I would like to point out that the icons are easy to read and like many others have said the debuffs always appear on the far left where new buffs go to the right so in theory as long as you are paying enough attention and you see one appear on the left you should know its a debuff. For the people who used to play XI this is easy mode, FFXI had not one spell to remove debuffs but 4 different spells (maybe more I don't remember) and you didn't even know the party had any on in the first place unless you knew the mobs moves or happened to be targeting the right party member. If my party list changed colour I'd feel like I was playing a game for ten year olds so I hope these add ons can have features disabled
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