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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Oh really?

    I been looking around for formulas and stuff (use to be a formula nut in FFXI) but was unable to find much. Like how much crit to increase a %tage etc. Stats to help me fine tune as it were xD Happen to have any links for this?
    At the very least this is how it works for physical damage, I am assuming it's the same for magic damage as well. I believe it comes out as something like each 1 point of WD is equivalent to about 7ish STR (in the case of physical damage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Oh really?

    I been looking around for formulas and stuff (use to be a formula nut in FFXI) but was unable to find much. Like how much crit to increase a %tage etc. Stats to help me fine tune as it were xD Happen to have any links for this?
    1% crit rate roughly equals 13 crit stat. 10 Spell Speed is a .01 drop in GCD.

    Here's the damage formula: http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id...amageMechanics

    Basically, for everyone, +1 weapon>>>>>>everything else. WD serves as a multiplier to damage, so higher WD makes everything else more valuable. The only anomaly is BRD thanks to their low weapon damage on relic+1 and unusually high stats on the body piece, but even then, as soon as you upgrade past Darklight on any piece, the Bow is better.

    So, basically, save for your +1. It's by far your biggest damage boost and you'll notice a pretty considerable difference even going from relic to relic+1.
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    Honestly if you are doing coil, do belt, legs, necklace or earrings first. those are the turn 4 & 5 loot. You have a higher chance of getting the coil chest and head first and regretting spending myth.
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    Thanks everyone, thats the type of info i was looking for. very much appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenok View Post
    Honestly if you are doing coil, do belt, legs, necklace or earrings first. those are the turn 4 & 5 loot. You have a higher chance of getting the coil chest and head first and regretting spending myth.
    When i find a group that DOESN'T fail in beating Titan then yes.... But as it stands uits usually me and the healer left standing after every ones dead from plumes lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    When i find a group that DOESN'T fail in beating Titan then yes.... But as it stands uits usually me and the healer left standing after every ones dead from plumes lol
    Try calling out plumes.

    Its what I've taken to doing

    <se.8>Plumes<se.8>

    Plumes are after first stomp (which comes after first mountain buster) and second mountain buster.

    After your group can avoid plumes, the next is knowing how to bait the landslides during bombs.
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  7. #17
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    Finally beat Titan and got me my relic+1 which im over the moon with

    Now onto my next question. Looking at the stats Summoners Doublet is better than a melded Vanya, yet people say get the Vanya instead, why? Got a friend that can HQ so will be the HQ version, but it loses 9 VIT and 9 INT.

    Looking above it seems Mytho pieces drop in Coil? Is this the case?

    Not digressing from the original point, should i go Vanya melded with full crit, or 1 VIT, 1 INT and 2 Crit, or go Mytho body?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Not digressing from the original point, should i go Vanya melded with full crit, or 1 VIT, 1 INT and 2 Crit, or go Mytho body?

    Thanks in advance!
    Well one costs a capped currency, and the other only costs philo (or gil). So really its an odd comparison.

    Of course the myth (or allagan from coil) is better, but you can get the vanya without slowing down your acquisition of other pieces.

    I think I want to echo what others have been saying, which is, get your relic, do a week or two of coil runs, and only buy gear if it is hindering your groups progress, or after you've picked up some coil pieces, then replace the ones you didn't get with myth.

    The worst thing is buying your shiny new AF2 only to immediately get the same drop in coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    /snip

    Of course the myth (or allagan from coil) is better, but you can get the vanya without slowing down your acquisition of other pieces.

    I think I want to echo what others have been saying, which is, get your relic, do a week or two of coil runs, and only buy gear if it is hindering your groups progress, or after you've picked up some coil pieces, then replace the ones you didn't get with myth.

    The worst thing is buying your shiny new AF2 only to immediately get the same drop in coil.
    Yeah can imagine, so basically go with vanya and accessories seeing as accessories are form coil 4 and 5. I already have my relic+1 so thats done with.

    So in regards to melding, should i go 1 vit 1 int and 2 crit or crit x4 all the way?

    The mytho headpiece also looks very good, so i may upgrade that if i am getting vanya body HQ. But yes i get your point in having it drop within the first 2-3 runs :/ would be heart breaking ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    So in regards to melding, should i go 1 vit 1 int and 2 crit or crit x4 all the way?
    I do not have the money for a vanya piece, so take this with a grain of salt.

    From what I know, an HQ piece will max out all primary stats, as well as one? secondary stat at least. This means that int on an HQ Vanya will not do anything.

    For the rest, I would slot crit until they cap (you'll see red on your materia when you go to socket it, and so that means that piece is already hitting the cap).

    Then go determination and then...piety, if you've hit accuracy cap.

    If you're not HQ, I would go int until cap and then crit.

    From what people in coil have been saying, vit is not important (or at least, additional vit is inconsequential) so I would not slot that ever.
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