Something about the incoming PvP that really disturbs me. The names. Fresh meat.

[Dragonskin]

There is a difference between having pvp for the sake of breaking up the game play and having pvp because people play it competitively. No one is saying this game shouldn't have PvP. We are saying that it is unlikely that this game will have PvP that people will write home about. Saying that having names displayed will magically make PvP better is just not true. It actually doesn't really matter. Either the PvP is enjoyable, competitive and balance or it isn't. If it isn't then it won't matter how many useless features they cram in...

If you are expecting FFXIV PvP to be something new, amazing and fresh then I hope you don't mind being disappointed. If they manage to pull PvP off where it is largely enjoyable then I will be surprised, but very happy. I'm guessing you guys don't know about Ballista? SE isn't known for balanced and well thought out competitive PvP.

[sylvanica]

I am 100% pro hiding names for PvP without any option to show others' names. I will agree that instead of "Fresh Meat," perhaps "Opponent A" would be better.

[ashikenshin]

awesome mind read

yeah you posted everything I wanted to say. This little thing won't be what makes or breaks PvP in FFXIV. Don't know why people are making such a big deal about it.

[Stryker]

11 PvP was terrible, everyone knows that. But they should have built 14 knowing that PvP is expected by default. I don't know many games that are purely PvE anymore, especially not subscription games.

That being said, I don't expect 14 to have mind blowing PvP since it wasn't designed around that like other games might be. But I do expect something decent to help pass the time. Blocking out names makes it feel like I'm playing some disney game that's trying to protect it's 10 year old population.

If people are afraid of getting picked on in PvP or "bullied" then simply don't play. Nobody is forcing anyone to PvP, and its something that tends to get aggressive in any game. Regardless of how bad PvP is in a game, it will always get heated. It's human nature, people that participate are competitive, otherwise they wouldn't compete.

[FinagleABagel]

This is an extremely poor design choice. I don't need to see names (would be nice though), but I do need to see some sort of differentiation between opponents. I'm a competitive PvP'er, been doing it for well over a decade. I wanted to bring that competitive spirit to FFXIV, but I can't effectively lead a raid when everyone is named the same thing.

Target...that Fresh Meat. No wait, I mean THAT one. /facepalm

Yes, I realize there is target marking. No, I don't find it terribly useful because PvP is so much faster than PvE. I want to be able to call out a targets in VOIP to my team. Give me something to work with guys.

[JustinianKaiser]

If Yoshida is a PvP enthusiast.




It is not showing.

[ashikenshin]

If Yoshida is a PvP enthusiast.




It is not showing.

have you played the pvp in ffxiv? how was it?

[JustinianKaiser]

We already have harassment in duty finder. Why not obscure our names to Wandering Adventurer 1/2/3/4 in that?

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[JustinianKaiser]

The reason ballista/brenner failed was because there was no incentive to participate, not becuase nobody had any interest whatsoever. If ballista gave out cool rewards, you could be sure everyone would have been all over that. Wolve's den DOES have cool rewards. There are going to be people who have never done pvp before who will go "oh wow, I want that cool armor with the tiger head helmet or "dang I want those cool goodies" and queue up just for the chance to get them.

If you give people a reason to go, they will go. I guarantee you, if ballista had material rewards, even if they were cosmetic, more people would have stuck around. TONS of people were playing it when it first came out. Then they discovered there was nothing in it for them, so it essentially slowed their PvE progress without any benefits. Almost nobody does anything just "for fun" in an MMO, at least not anymore.

The fun part is beating the enemy.
You don't need anything else.

[Stryker]

The fun part is beating the enemy.
You don't need anything else.

But if you don't have a name then that doesn't make it fun either. "YES I JUST BEAT MEAT BAG #1, WHATS UP". "I'm TOTALLY SMASHING ON MEAT BAG #2 *HIGH FIVE*"

Beating a nameless and most likely carbon copy of a class doesn't quite seem like a lot of fun. I equate it to playing against bots in a game with possibly more AI. That's about it.