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  1. #11
    Player
    Avatar de Aceill
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Aska Vesaryn
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50
    It's pretty much getting about 12%-18% quality off hasty/basic touch with Inner Quiet, then popping Innovation, Great Strides and oneshotting the bar with Byregot's Blessing (guaranteed 100% at 18% quality assuming base HQ was 1%, and no Good/Excellent modifiers affected quality).

    However, if you're just doing same level crafts, then you can skip on Blacksmithing to 15. I would suggest getting all to 15, but if you want to save every penny possible then you can skip ingenuity until you plan to craft 1/2 star equipment.

    Also, the 1000 character limit is a bit ridiculous. It should definitely be doubled so posts aren't cut so short.
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  2. #12
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    Avatar de Kyana
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    mars 2011
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    Ul'dah
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    Kyana Nekote
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Aceill Voir le message
    It's pretty much getting about 12%-18% quality off hasty/basic touch with Inner Quiet, then popping Innovation, Great Strides and oneshotting the bar with Byregot's Blessing (guaranteed 100% at 18% quality assuming base HQ was 1%, and no Good/Excellent modifiers affected quality).
    Hmm, maybe I'll try Byregot's Blessing again. I didn't find it that great in my previous attempts though.
    I usually have enough CP left to do Great Strides+Innovation+Advanced Touch followed by another Great Strides+Advanced Touch (Innovation still active), then use Rumination and finish the synth.

    Regarding Innovation: I thought it should lower the level of the recipe...now that I read it again, I wonder how I came to that conclusion ^^;
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  3. #13
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    C'hakra Nunh
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 60
    Well guys thanks for the support, going to try whatever i can to get cross class abilities first and then move to 50 crafting classes, thanks u!
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  4. #14
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    Character
    Hermennes Cletrindale
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 15
    I'm not a big fan of the Hasty Touch approach. The only way Hasty Touch spam works is if you get a lot of good procs. If you don't get any, or hardly get any, you end up ending early because you don't have any more CP for manipulation or steady hands. In short, it's not an endless process that allows you 100% HQ every time.

    There's nothing wrong with using Waste Not, simply because you don't need CP from a good proc. The Hasty Touch spam is mostly going to work only with a lot of the good level 50 cross skills. It won't do you much good when you're leveling your first crafting class to 50 and have just a handful of the level 15 cross skills.
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  5. #15
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    Avatar de Aketo
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    Character
    Nalina Rei
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Mineur Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Bufkus Voir le message
    I'm not a big fan of the Hasty Touch approach. The only way Hasty Touch spam works is if you get a lot of good procs. If you don't get any, or hardly get any, you end up ending early because you don't have any more CP for manipulation or steady hands. In short, it's not an endless process that allows you 100% HQ every time.

    There's nothing wrong with using Waste Not, simply because you don't need CP from a good proc. The Hasty Touch spam is mostly going to work only with a lot of the good level 50 cross skills. It won't do you much good when you're leveling your first crafting class to 50 and have just a handful of the level 15 cross skills.

    If you have suggestions that might help people HQ at low levels out by all means share with us otherwise what was suggested is a good strat even if risky at times.
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  6. #16
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    Avatar de Cromax
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    aot 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Illianara Ravena
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 54
    Citation Envoyé par Bufkus Voir le message
    I'm not a big fan of the Hasty Touch approach. The only way Hasty Touch spam works is if you get a lot of good procs. If you don't get any, or hardly get any, you end up ending early because you don't have any more CP for manipulation or steady hands. In short, it's not an endless process that allows you 100% HQ every time.

    There's nothing wrong with using Waste Not, simply because you don't need CP from a good proc. The Hasty Touch spam is mostly going to work only with a lot of the good level 50 cross skills. It won't do you much good when you're leveling your first crafting class to 50 and have just a handful of the level 15 cross skills.
    Terrible advice.

    With all of the 15 cross-class skills except for Rapid Synthesis and Ingenuity, I'm HQing nearly everything that's my level or lower on each of my classes that are still under 20. At 25 culinary, I'm HQing nearly everything that I can make at that level.

    You're obviously doing it wrong.
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  7. #17
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    Avatar de Cuban
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    Character
    Loves Spooning
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Those are good rotations but not the best. I'll keep reading tho till someone nails it. You can hq t2 items at 100% with the proper rotation starting from 0/2950
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    Server: Behemoth
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  8. #18
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    Loves Spooning
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Cromax Voir le message
    Terrible advice.

    With all of the 15 cross-class skills except for Rapid Synthesis and Ingenuity, I'm HQing nearly everything that's my level or lower on each of my classes that are still under 20. At 25 culinary, I'm HQing nearly everything that I can make at that level.

    You're obviously doing it wrong.
    1. Bufkus is right.
    2. U said it. Level 25 syths. Take that same rotation ur using and hq t2 syths. I'm sure u will fail.
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    Server: Behemoth
    IGN: Loves Spooning

  9. #19
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    Avatar de lBurnquist
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    Character
    C'hakra Nunh
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 60
    So any hints for first crafting class besides hasty touch?
    I have now, 35 goldsmith and trying to level that first, but I also have Leather at 15, Alchemist 15 and Culinarian 15, acn u gimme a rotation with that in mind please?!
    tyvm

    Edit: 70 durability item
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    Dernière modification de lBurnquist, 04/10/2013 à 11h03

  10. #20
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    Avatar de mindful
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    Character
    Mindful Pizza
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 60
    Best thing you can do is make sure you got all HQ version of your gear for control. Meld control to every piece of gear if got gil or means. Then on good or excellence use the right ability. stand touch ex. If durability is under 50, At under 50 then just use the cross jobs ability. So at 60-80 durability use, hasty touch, till 10/80, then master mend 2, then if can great strides, basic touch,standard touch, or advance touch if got them. Then might need use food items to get that extra cp bonuse. After hq about 8 or 10 items in a row , then the game sets it this way up so you got like 50/50 afterwards. but can make about 10 items hq in a row.
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    Dernière modification de mindful, 04/10/2013 à 16h48

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