Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[Xilrasis]

Also, a real shame of it is that all of us who HAVE invested so much of our time in progress are unwilling to give up the information we DO have and have worked so hard to obtain, so coming to any level of agreement on the brokenness of the later parts of this encounter is exceedingly difficult.

[NeoAmon]

Also, a real shame of it is that all of us who HAVE invested so much of our time in progress are unwilling to give up the information we DO have and have worked so hard to obtain, so coming to any level of agreement on the brokenness of the later parts of this encounter is exceedingly difficult.

No need to share anything my friend. Remind me once more what are the rewards from Turn 5? 2 pieces for each job and a wp which is equivalent to Relic +1. Those two pieces are easily replaced by AF2 to complete all what you can get in 1,2 and 4. I may sound like a loot whore, but turn 5 is a time buying machine for the devs until they can release more content before they make the fight about mechanics instead of RNG feast.

I apologise if I offended anyone who is trying so hard to break turn 5 and get world first but IMHO Turn 5 is not worth more than 3-4 hours per week on trying to figure out what triggers what and how to counter that or this.

[Oogre]

Also, a real shame of it is that all of us who HAVE invested so much of our time

This is just standard progression stuff though. Information gets leaked within a few people and it seems like we have a general idea of what the strat is at this point if you ask around other FCs. The only thing thats killing me is the lack or trial and error some guilds are not willing so do. Once someone finds one way to do something, they stick to it like the plague when in reality theres a few ways to do each boss based on comp, your dps and what not. Turn 4 is a bit different, but I can say turn 5 allows you a bit of room of how you want to complete the encounter. Right now I see gear is a major issue, not the encounter itself. We just dont have the little extra damage and hp buffs to make the fight go smoother, but I can say Were constantly getting to phase 2 before wiping. We just need a little bit more of a push in order to get to the kill.

[Greg]

The real unfortunate bit is every single thing before Turn 5 is very well made and very fun, so you want to keep playing because of those encounters.

[KelenaeV]

Also, a real shame of it is that all of us who HAVE invested so much of our time in progress are unwilling to give up the information we DO have and have worked so hard to obtain, so coming to any level of agreement on the brokenness of the later parts of this encounter is exceedingly difficult.

Because there is money involved with world first... those Saudi Oil princes love giving their money to world firsts.

[KingDolor]

Also, a real shame of it is that all of us who HAVE invested so much of our time in progress are unwilling to give up the information we DO have and have worked so hard to obtain, so coming to any level of agreement on the brokenness of the later parts of this encounter is exceedingly difficult.

What information would you like?

[Xilrasis]

What information would you like?

I don't really "need" information or would "like" information. I simply want other people who have actually made significant progress in the encounter (Read: Making it to divebomb phase and limit breaking through the explosion with adds still alive is not significant progress) to weigh in their input on the brokenness of the later phases of the encounter and the mechanics they involve. The problem for many guilds (us included) is that doing so in a detailed and useful manner 1) reveals too much information about the mechanics themselves and 2) reveals how much progress has been made.

I find it intriguing that NONE of BG is making all these "broken" claims.

Because BG isn't willing to give any hint toward their progress in the encounter. If the encounter weren't broken, it would have been killed already. Just stop.

Honestly the fights not broken, but any critical damage on non tanks will kill you so the rng is pretty severe.

And this type of post is the crux of one of the problems.

Twintania can't crit (Nor can most bosses... I believe Titan is an exception). There is zero tank RNG whatsoever in this encounter. Everything tank related can be 100% controlled and easily dealt with.

[Medieval]

And this type of post is the crux of one of the problems.

Twintania can't crit (Nor can most bosses... I believe Titan is an exception). There is zero tank RNG whatsoever in this encounter. Everything tank related can be 100% controlled and easily dealt with.

Woo random 5.9k fireballs.