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  1. #31
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilHippie View Post
    i am bad at math, can someone simplify this for me? :P
    By putting bonus stats in VIT - equipping Jewelery with Crit and STR - wearing DL Body stuffs - and with Relic

    You should be sitting at ~6500 HP with Defiance
    be able to self heal with Inner Beast (IB) for ~1050 HP @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IB for ~1365 HP with the Buff/Debuff from Maim and Storm's Eye @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IR, IB, Infuriate, IB by ~2700-3800 HP (Maim+SE) @ 60 second intervals.

    By putting bonus stats in VIT - equipping Jewelery with Parry and VIT - wearing DL Body stuffs - and with Relic

    You should be sitting at ~7200 HP with Defiance
    be able to self heal with Inner Beast (IB) for ~870 HP @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IB for ~1131 HP with the Buff/Debuff from Maim and Storm's Eye @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IR, IB, Infuriate, IB by ~2100-3100 HP (Maim+SE) @ 60 second intervals.

    By putting bonus stats in STR - equipping Jewelery with Crit and STR - wearing DL Body stuffs - and with Relic

    You should be sitting at ~6000 HP with Defiance
    be able to self heal with Inner Beast (IB) for ~1140 HP @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IB for ~1482 HP with the Buff/Debuff from Maim and Storm's Eye @ 20s intervals
    be able to self heal with IR, IB, Infuriate, IB by ~3000-4200 HP (Maim+SE) @ 60 second intervals.

    Both extremes and a middle - choose your poison
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 10-03-2013 at 01:12 AM.

  2. #32
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    I converted to Flash myself.

    Mostly because Overpower sucked TP and gives you no Wrath.
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  3. #33
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    Evil Hippie
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    Thank you, but i do wonder if, with the release of 2.1 we will have to re-allocate our skill points to one or the other. I remember reading somewhere that it was possible, though difficult to do so. Has any Information been released on that?
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  4. #34
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilHippie View Post
    Thank you, but i do wonder if, with the release of 2.1 we will have to re-allocate our skill points to one or the other. I remember reading somewhere that it was possible, though difficult to do so. Has any Information been released on that?
    10k seals at your local Grand Company. You are looking for an item called Keepers Hymn. I think it only resets the points for the job you are on. If you already stacked your bonus on VIT though, may as well leave it.
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  5. #35
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    Thank you again. No i mistakenly put some points where they didn't belong(in dex, don't judge it was early on). I have a mostly strength build but am rethinking it after reading the forums. I have yet to hit endgame content and would like to be prepared.
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  6. #36
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    Anyone looking for actual information about this game should never try to learn from these forums. They are full of bad information and an obnoxious amount of complaint and QQ posts.

    1. Put all your points into vitality, WAR or PLD.
    2. Anyone who disagrees with that, is bad, and wrong.
    3. Warriors are fine and completely balanced, and if you disagree you are a bad who needs to l2p.
    4. Yes i'm serious.
    5. We have cleared turn 4 with a warrior tank, and it is substantially easier than with 2 PLD due to WAR snap aggro on adds.
    6. People should stop saying PLD can dps the same as a warrior. There is no tanking situation in the entire end game where
    sword oath is viable whatsoever while tanking. And obviously AoE damage the WAR brings significantly more to the table.

    That's all.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleShipSkyLobster View Post
    Anyone looking for actual information about this game should never try to learn from these forums. They are full of bad information and an obnoxious amount of complaint and QQ posts.

    1. Put all your points into vitality, WAR or PLD.
    2. Anyone who disagrees with that, is bad, and wrong.
    3. Warriors are fine and completely balanced, and if you disagree you are a bad who needs to l2p.
    4. Yes i'm serious.
    5. We have cleared turn 4 with a warrior tank, and it is substantially easier than with 2 PLD due to WAR snap aggro on adds.
    6. People should stop saying PLD can dps the same as a warrior. There is no tanking situation in the entire end game where
    sword oath is viable whatsoever while tanking. And obviously AoE damage the WAR brings significantly more to the table.

    That's all.
    I'm going to take your suggestion in your first line... and ignore all the "bad information" you provided after. I mean you say they all(all would include yours) have bad information then expect people to go with your "bad information"? Really?

    Edit: I'm not saying your info is bad... just pointing out that you are calling your own information bad.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derza View Post
    I'm going to take your suggestion in your first line... and ignore all the "bad information" you provided after. I mean you say they all(all would include yours) have bad information then expect people to go with your "bad information"? Really?
    Sez the guy in the moogle cap. EDIT: Awww it went away... durn it. I just find it sometimes funny what people wear on the forums when it disconnects from the serious-business tone of their posts.

    Even though we disagree that Vit has no cap on its usefulness, I pretty much agree with the rest of it.

    I think the post several pages back explains it better than I ever could, but basically I feel that once you reach a certain "tier" of Vitality you stand to benefit more from Strength than adding more Vit. That said, once you get into Turn 4 of Coil I can imagine that Vit suddenly will be something you want to stack again.

    Congrats on your FCs success Julius. I hope to get as far as you soon. ^_^
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 10-03-2013 at 04:13 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Sez the guy in the moogle cap.

    Even though we disagree that Vit has no cap on its usefulness, I pretty much agree with the rest of it.
    Lol what does having a moogle cap on have to do with anything? Oh and read my edited post... ( i edited it like 10 secs after i posted guess you refreshed really fast!)
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  10. #40
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    I have a WAR and PLD, my highest crit on war is 992, the pld gets 315. You guys really think pld has higher single target dps? Play both classes before you compare them.
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