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  1. #11
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    I can assure you it's not the healers fault. Tanks go into brayflox severely undergeared and take entirely too much damage for a healer to keep up with. Black Mages generally refuse to sleep targets if you have one in your party, and when tanks don't mark it makes it almost impossible to keep targets asleep. Leveling to 35 won't matter because you can't be over level 34 for brayflox. Get some better gear on your tank and separate your targets to keep the DPS down and you'll find that the dungeon is an absolute breeze. I love this dungeon and have ran it so many times trying to drop gear out of it. Brayflox Longstop is a check on your ability to play your class, most people don't pass the test.


    Miss Dragon is a much easier boss than the Add spam that the first mini boss you come across is.
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  2. #12
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    Asheilin's Avatar
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    My boyfriend and I hit this same problem the other day, he's pld I'm sch. we were running the dungeon slow, marking/safe pulls since it was our first time; I had looked up boss fights because of comments from FC. We knew the theory for last boss, execution was a lot harder. We wiped on that boss probably 7 times before we gave up (with 10m left on the clock as we raised back into the dungeon entrance). Our group was us two, monk, and a smn (only one to have ran it before). after first wipe, smn used titan for the rest of the time which probably made it worse since the tank also had to fight that for emnity. We had an issue too with the aoe lag.Tank would be fully behind the boss on my screen and still get wailed on by the breath abilities, only managed to dodge it about 5 times total. after using swiftcast-resurrection on the tank each battle because the smn did it in the center of poison pool 3 times, I was always outta mana and poison pools everwhere--Boss maybe 50% at lowest point.
    Will probably go again later, if we can get 2 others from FC to go with; I can always go as smn, but I dont think having Esuna is gonna save anything in this fight yet.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

  3. #13
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
    (...)I can always go as smn, but I dont think having Esuna is gonna save anything in this fight yet.
    Esuna do help alot, those poison ticks are terrible, but you can do without it btw it is CNJ or WHM you meant I suppose?

    If you get a SMN he/she must use ifrit, the poison is not bad on it and you need DPS while the SMN can help healing.
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  4. #14
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    Leveling to 35 won't matter because you can't be over level 34 for brayflox.
    Not entirely true as of course you can get better gear, soe additional stat points and so on and even if some of that staff wil lget synced down as well you're still overall better off.
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  5. #15
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    Soraxas Straeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    I can assure you it's not the healers fault. Tanks go into brayflox severely undergeared and take entirely too much damage for a healer to keep up with. Black Mages generally refuse to sleep targets if you have one in your party, and when tanks don't mark it makes it almost impossible to keep targets asleep. Leveling to 35 won't matter because you can't be over level 34 for brayflox. Get some better gear on your tank and separate your targets to keep the DPS down and you'll find that the dungeon is an absolute breeze. I love this dungeon and have ran it so many times trying to drop gear out of it. Brayflox Longstop is a check on your ability to play your class, most people don't pass the test.


    Miss Dragon is a much easier boss than the Add spam that the first mini boss you come across is.
    False. In this dungeon I nearly run out of MP everytime. The only reason I don't is because of my obsessive desire to be as efficient as possible. (EX: Waiting until I almost lose the freecure proc to make sure I get the full HP out of it. Esuna as soon as poison pops.)

    I recommend you find yourself a kind bard to sing your healers a purty lil song. xD Bards make this dungeon a joke if you know to avoid big green pools that hurt you and heal him.
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    Last edited by OrganizationXIll; 10-02-2013 at 11:35 PM.

  6. #16
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaliss View Post
    Esuna do help alot, those poison ticks are terrible, but you can do without it btw it is CNJ or WHM you meant I suppose?

    If you get a SMN he/she must use ifrit, the poison is not bad on it and you need DPS while the SMN can help healing.
    either, really. I'd see if anyone in FC would mind going healing for it so I can see how they do it. And the reason I said I didnt think it would help is because esuna is casting instead of cure or medica and that seems like hell for that fight. as a sch I was using Whispering Wind from Eos to migate some of the poison tics. with her healing whichever person needed it with Embrace while I wholly focused on the tank, even calling out aoe aloud incase he didnt see it Usually on bosses I have time enough to toss Bio/Bio II/Misama on them, but the only points I wasnt healing I was trying to Raise.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

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    Jarlax Gennocide
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    Don't wait to see the poison before you move. Watch the boss, he spits poison at a specific player. Stack at his back you see him turn everyone run away from him to not allow him to spit poison on himself " it heals him" if tank gets it tank moves boss ire if others get it near boss. If you don't keep him out of his own AE he will heal and healers will OOM
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  8. #18
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    Rhaze Cain
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    Already most of the strat mentioned, so I won't repeat. But I have to comment how Esuna helps immensely.

    I first did Brayflox as I was leveling tanks. WAR, then PLD. First 4 or 5 times our DF groups needed multiple tries and *barely* won eventually. Then I got a WHM that knew about Esuna and it was incredibly easier.

    Afterward I leveled WHM myself including half-dozen DF groups through Brayflox. I was casting Esuna liberally, and as I recall not a single one of those groups failed to 1-shot kill the last boss. WHM just needs to get health in the roughly safe range and then cast Esuna if even 1 poison stack.

    As long as you're mostly executing the rest of the strat, it's really difficult to fail if healed this way. Can still win without Esuna, but much harder.
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    Last edited by RhazeCain; 10-02-2013 at 11:46 PM.

  9. #19
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    Asheilin's Avatar
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    I would love to see some SCH healing win comments, as Sch is my main, and I dont want to switch to whm(and level it a bunch) just to get past this fight. I wanna do it on my main class.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

  10. #20
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I couldn't get past it on SCH. Tank wouldn't move out of red in time, would take massive damage. I had no Esuna. Eos would often die, and I didn't have Swiftcast, so we'd wipe because I couldn't keep up with healing on my own, and if I tried to Summon her the tank would die. It was brutal.

    Finally came back on BRD and got the win on first try.

    I'm not saying SCH can't get through it. Our healer when I beat it on BRD was a SCH. But he had Swiftcast and I kept Ballad on him. It helps.
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