What good is vanity gear if we are so restricted on what we can wear? I would like to be able to equip anything in my vanity slots. Who cares if someone else doesn't like it...it's about what I want to wear not someone else.
What good is vanity gear if we are so restricted on what we can wear? I would like to be able to equip anything in my vanity slots. Who cares if someone else doesn't like it...it's about what I want to wear not someone else.
No restrictions on vanity gear please. My desire for vanity customization trumps yours with regards to my character, and vice versa.
Just adding my 2 cents before I forget, YES 2!!
Numero 1! Whatever you do, restrictions or not, please be FAIR, either tanks can wear cloth/leather like vanity gear and Magic can wear plate/leather like gear too.
And second, do NOT make AF usable in vanity by any jobs other than the right one (DRG-DRG BLM-BLM PLD-PLD etc).Tanks: All plate armours, scale armours, leather armours, martial cloth and caster cloth
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All casters: Caster cloth only
Other than that I believe opening the restrictions on everything will be nicer, as they have already said lore characters don't always wear class-appropriate gear.
Personally as a caster I would love to mix in some plate-looking gear. And let bikini tanks have fun XD
P.S.: please add an off button, will solve most issues and client-side as it should be, shouldn't be hard to implement. (off button for everything, specific characters off is harder and I don't expect that to be added, not really necessary).
Agreed. Though, I would still like to be able to use seasonal clothing for vanity.![]()
Agreed, with the caveat that class-specific gear should stay class specific. This is more for the sake of diversity than anything, although seeing a 2h axe wielding warrior tanking in Darklight robes/hood would be pretty cool looking. Nonetheless, to at least keep the look classes somewhat diverse, I'd leave that one restriction in place.
I couldn't care less about immersion. It's a video game. Let people have their fun. You always have the option of grouping with like-minded individuals who demand they "look the part" if you so choose.
Vanity takes immersion away; all games are about immersion, RPGs or not. Why even give specific armors and clothing their own lore/visual/style if you let player change it as they please?
It's one of these things we have today on the gaming industry, you give everyone everything and end up with a meaningless game that looks like every other game... who remembers diablo 1 and 2? When you had a new, more powerful armor and your character changed visually, it was awesome.
That is a slippery slope. You want to hide bikinis because you do not want to see them. What if I don't want to see DL gear? Then we need a toggle for swapping armors on other players from their active ones, into vanity you pick. So for us both to enjoy the game, we need to be able to choose what everyone else is wearing. This gets incredibly complicated and silly, and all just because we both say "We shouldn't have to look at what others want to display".
Of course that will never happen, and we'll all have to "Deal with it" when it comes to people looking like clowns. The question is just why YOU shouldn't have to "Deal with it" when it comes to vanity. As it seems the answer is "Because SE wants their hard work armors to be worn and seen and not replaced by only the most popular clothes."
Immersion does mean something, however it is an opinion - and what immersion is, is often misunderstood due to its opinionated source. But no, immersion is incredibly important even to a multiplayer game and especially to an mmorpg.I had to log in just to quote this. People throw out the immersion card thinking it means something. You are playing a game. And an online one, with repeatable content. If you want immersion, try a single player game or a book.
In the meantime, I'll be healing my groups while /dancing in my red and green bikini.
If when using the vanity system your experience doesn't become disjointed and throw you out of the game experience then vanity is still immersive FOR YOU... of course that doesnt mean it will be for someone else - hence immersion and target audience is really a hand in hand discussion since you cant achieve that for everyone (and why some people can take a restricted system, others cant, and then others offer a toggle suggestion- trying to find a best common ground of different perspectives). My wife for example will not accept aliens lol, if a game has aliens she won't ever get into the game - however history and technology (void of aliens) she has no problem with... portal and assassins creed were awesome for her (she didnt get to see all the story in AC though..). She hated mass effect just because of the aliens lol.
Last edited by Shougun; 10-03-2013 at 02:53 AM.
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