Defiance's Damage Penalty, where does it come from?

[Cocytus]

Everyone always forgets since they don't read the skills but maim gives you back 20% of the -25% damage debuff. Your net reduction is only 5%... well if the numbers don't lie that is.

[Ysarel]

Everyone always forgets since they don't read the skills but maim gives you back 20% of the -25% damage debuff. Your net reduction is only 5%... well if the numbers don't lie that is.

No. Use of Maim is not exclusive to times when Defiance is up.

[Lhun]

No. Use of Maim is not exclusive to times when Defiance is up.

Exactly, with berserk and maim active and defiance DOWN, you can effectively do a lot more damage then by simply fighting against the debuff, but then, you're also doing nothing to improve your ability to tank. At that point you might as well take the warrior soul off, since you can take 10 abilities from all classes that way, and just use MRD.

[Kitru]

Everyone always forgets since they don't read the skills but maim gives you back 20% of the -25% damage debuff. Your net reduction is only 5%... well if the numbers don't lie that is.

From what I've been able to gather, all multipliers are factored multiplicatively, rather than additively, which would suggest that Main + Defiance equates to 90% damage dealt ((1 + .2) * .75) rather than 95% (1+ .2 -.25).