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  1. #41
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    CurlyBruce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhun View Post
    Where on earth are you getting 30-100HP per GCD? For the full duration of Bath and Veng (even better with unchained) you will heal anywhere from 500-1500HP for it's duration, depending on the auto-attack speed of your opponent.
    Oh, I don't know, maybe the post where you said Vengeance + Bloodbath gives you about 30-100HP per enemy strike. Then I proceeded to inform you that there is no possible way Vengeance will deal 120-400 damage per reflect (Bloodbath is 25%, if it's going to heal 30-100 HP the hits need to be 120-400 damage). So I gave you the benefit of doubt assumed you meant healing from both reflect and abilities you were using. You can get off about one ability+autoattack per enemy attack assuming it doesn't WS in between. That's where 30-100HP per GCD came from.
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  2. #42
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    Vanyaeli Raegi
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terabyt3 View Post
    Flash is less effective than overpower
    But you can raise your enmity on sleeping targets without waking them up, that itself is the sole reason it's on my bar.

    A skill's usefulness should be measured by the number of applications it has, not its potency compared to similar skills.
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  3. #43
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    Synergy Worthington
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    All of this Terabyt3 guys posts are full of retardation.
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  4. #44
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    Nykona Sharrowkyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synergy View Post
    All of this Terabyt3 guys posts are full of retardation.
    Hello there troll! Care to explain how? I;ve got no problem tanking coil, titan and so on.
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    Wah Zam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terabyt3 View Post
    Hello there troll! Care to explain how? I;ve got no problem tanking coil, titan and so on.
    Don't want to rain on your parade but you haven't cleared coil turn 1 as the achievement doesn't appear on your lodestone. If you have another character that has then i appologise for calling you out
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  6. #46
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Hello. I missed out on the discussion about Second Wind but I wanted to share some testing I've done with it.

    Second Wind scales with both Attack Power and Weapon Physical Damage.

    I graphed the gains from Second Wind with various Attack Power stats and there seems to be different scales.
    My estimate is
    Up to 250 Attack Power it's a 2:1 Ratio
    250-500 Attack Power its a 1:1 Ratio
    After 500 Attack Power it seems to reach another scale, but I can't reach high enough over 500 with Berserk to say for certain.

    With a 41 Physical Damage weapon and ~370 Attack Power - after using Berserk @ 555 Attack Power you should be healing for ~600
    Second Wind seems to have a high Crit chance, so when paired with Internal Release you will often heal for 1000+

    Second Wind doesn't scale with anything else. Only stuff that effects critical or attack power.
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  7. #47
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    Onde Svin
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    well well this is the 3rd failed Warrior tanking guide, its not like warrior are hard pressed as it is, but these noob guides just spawn more noob warrior tanks... so keep it up!
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  8. #48
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    Terabyt3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondesvin View Post
    well well this is the 3rd failed Warrior tanking guide, its not like warrior are hard pressed as it is, but these noob guides just spawn more noob warrior tanks... so keep it up!
    How about having some input and discussion rather than just trolling and flaming? Prime example of the problems in the community right here.


    The title is also "MY" warrior. Which I;m having no problems tanking with. It was a discussion about my rotations and what can change. Good shout on the provoke earlier though I never thought about grabbing hate after death or such things like tank swapping made easy!

    I'm still not sold on flash and find Overpower more effective (tried flash on hotbar for a long while). Even though it doesnt break cc like overpower it doesnt pull as much enmity and if mobs are cc'd provoke would work just as well would it not?
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    Last edited by Terabyt3; 10-02-2013 at 12:36 AM.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terabyt3 View Post
    I'm still not sold on flash and find Overpower more effective (tried flash on hotbar for a long while). Even though it doesnt break cc like overpower it doesnt pull as much enmity and if mobs are cc'd provoke would work just as well would it not?
    No, Provoke would not work just as well. Provoke is top hate +1 so if someone else does anything to you they will immediately pull hate again. Provoke is also only single target with a 40s cooldown so how does that help with multiple mobs that are cc'd? Then there are times when you are Pacified from Berserk and an add pops during a boss. How are you going to grab it? Provoke and Flash are your only options and as stated earlier Provoke only allows you to catch up on hate, not surpass it.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyBruce View Post
    Then there are times when you are Pacified from Berserk and an add pops during a boss. How are you going to grab it? Provoke and Flash are your only options and as stated earlier Provoke only allows you to catch up on hate, not surpass it.
    I tried Flash for all of 5 levels before realizing that it was worthless and abandoning it for other more useful things that actually make me a better tank (the same applies to Provoke; unless a fight has an explicit tank-swap mechanic, I'm not bringing it). The argument that it's somehow amazing because it doesn't break CCd mobs gets really old, mainly because, unless you're an idiot, you shouldn't be breaking CCd mobs in the first place (if the BLM is sleeping, don't use Overpower!). On top of that, you'll get a whopping 3 Flashes before you run out of MP when you do end up using it so it's not like the "resources" argument that gets bandied about concerning Flash is even remotely appropriate.

    If adds pop during a boss and you've got Pacification, the problem is that you've got Pacification. Learn the fight and don't use Berserk arbitrarily, especially when adds are going to be spawning. If you *need* Flash because you're Pacified, the problem isn't the load out of your additionals; the problem is with you.
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