No "REAL" European Servers....

[kayhen]

Now that said, if you want lower than 180ms latency you need to also ask that DF servers be segregated because right now each one is shared between NA and EU.

Exactly my point in the first post....

The question here is if there is enough European players that can support dedicated EU servers... but I cannot answer that ...

[Nieto]

Now.. I'm not one to nerd rage on games, I stopped doing it about a year ago, but when I cannot kill Titan at all because, while on my screen I'm clear of animations but according to servers I'm not, and I die, it gets old, and frustrating. I don't live in an area that can connect to servers across the ocean all that well, whenever I've played on American servers in games I've encountered 150+ ping consistently, and while I have no clue how to check my ping on this game (The sending/receiving thing confuses me, if anyone would be able to clarify that for me I'd appreciate it) I can see that I'm lagging, being out of a spell animation and getting hit by it anyway is annoying, and with the elitism going around my server at the moment, I can't really afford to be getting hit by stuff, usually MMOs put EU servers in France.. Not sure what Square were thinking with this one but I don't know how much longer I can put up with this before I decide to just stop playing..
Rant over.

[Astralen]

Ping vs "EU" Datacenter = 38ms
Ping vs US Datacenter = 112ms

But the ingame lag is abysmal. I see rubberbanding all the time and sometimes all actions (except mine) are frozen for 1-2 secs. This in CM Duty.

[Mavlok]

Ping vs "EU" Datacenter = 38ms
Ping vs US Datacenter = 112ms

How's that even possible? They're essentially the same servers...

[Astralen]

How's that even possible? They're essentially the same servers...

I wonder the same! My guess is that we connect to a VPN host somewhere in Europe that reroutes traffic to Canada hence the lower ms.

[Helli]

You guys do realise that a lot of US players are also getting 180ms pings. So EU is not any worse off than most anywhere else.

That thing with the red circles hitting, it was an accepted bug about 3 weeks ago that has not yet been fixed.

[Adelphe]

SE does not seem to care about this issue though, so much so, that they wont even reply to these kind of topics, i get those weird lag spikes at times, but most of the time, i have to react so fast almost before an attack happens to avoid it, in another words u fail or wipe first 2-3 times of a new fight till your used to it, i guess thats normal though. but i do miss the times i used to get 30-60ms in games

[KraggyKor]

It is not acceptable to charge for a game monthly when the lowest ping on a server is 180 ms...

Game is fine, the numbers are meaningless, playing with 120ms ping has no effect at all in XIV, or in WOW, GW2, LOTRO or FFXI, you'd notice no different with 30ms. Whatever 'lag spikes' you're on about isn't affecting me on either server I play on, I suggest you look nearer home if you have problems.

That thing with the red circles hitting, it was an accepted bug about 3 weeks ago that has not yet been fixed.

This!

[worldofneil]

Game is fine, the numbers are meaningless, playing with 120ms ping has no effect at all in XIV, or in WOW, GW2, LOTRO or FFXI, you'd notice no different with 30ms

Agreed. All the FF XI server were (still are?) based in Japan and I know for the 6 years I played that it didn't cause me any problems. This isn't a first person shooter, even as high as 200 ms is a paltry 1/5th of a second.

I'm in the EU playing on an NA server and I have no idea what my latency is because I haven't had any problems and I've not felt the need to go check.

[Conkers]

The lag spikes have nothing at all to do with the 180ms.

Game is fine, the numbers are meaningless, playing with 120ms ping has no effect at all in XIV, or in WOW, GW2, LOTRO or FFXI, you'd notice no different with 30ms. Whatever 'lag spikes' you're on about isn't affecting me on either server I play on, I suggest you look nearer home if you have problems.

The level of clueless in this thread is astounding, sure there are other issues in this game such as the red AOE bug / your position only being polled every 0.3 seconds, etc, but really learn how the internet works.

For example regardless of the quality of an individual's ISP, everyone can suffer from packet loss, because when you are routed through an NSP backbone hub at peak time, packets can be lost there, regardless, which brings us around to latency. On average there is a correlation between latency and issues like lag, packet loss, etc, because often connecting to somewhere the other side of the planet, will involve more jumps and importantly more hubs, it also lowers the tolerance for the game servers performance, if the game servers are under stress and are being a tad unresponsive, the additional latency that adds may be manageable or even barely noticeable for someone normally around 30ms, but for the person typically at 180 ms does not have the room for error as it were and things will get laggy to one extent or another.

Which is why companies go to the expense of separate data centres, they don't do it for fun, even a B2P game like GW2 has an EU data centre, that a game asking for sub does not, is a joke.