I feel bad for Tanaka. (Tanaka appreciation thread)

[Majidah]

It must have been awful working beneath the tyranny of the Square Enix boardroom, slaving away day after day trying to meet a deadline, only to have customers hate your product in the end.

What a thankless task.

Well not anymore! Thank you Tanaka.

Edit: Can a moderator please forward our sentiments to Tanaka-san.

the product that released with no way to sort your inventory? this product is the one you speak of?

[Nuru]

the product that released with no way to sort your inventory? this product is the one you speak of?

Yeah, the same product with the rushed release.

[Onidemon]

Yeah, the same product with the rushed release.

Rushed release or not, nothing will excuse all the poor choices that were made regarding game mechanics. The lack of content is one thing and yes it can be explained by a rush product but the sucky battle system, crafting, UI, job system... all of these are just the director's vision... which is 20 years behind the competition.

Even rushed he could have made a game with great gameplay but lacking content.... which would already be 1000 times better then what we have now.

[Gramul]

Rushed release or not, nothing will excuse all the poor choices that were made regarding game mechanics. The lack of content is one thing and yes it can be explained by a rush product but the sucky battle system, crafting, UI, job system... all of these are just the director's vision... which is 20 years behind the competition.

Even rushed he could have made a game with great gameplay but lacking content.... which would already be 1000 times better then what we have now.

How exactly is the job system "behind" anyone? It's just a diffirent approach to it. Mind you I think it's severly underdeveloped (partially due to being rushed out before certain features like stance could be introduced) but I wouldn't call it behind. And the battle system is pretty interesting as an idea, but it was executed poorly.

[Onidemon]

How exactly is the job system "behind" anyone? It's just a diffirent approach to it. Mind you I think it's severly underdeveloped (partially due to being rushed out before certain features like stance could be introduced) but I wouldn't call it behind. And the battle system is pretty interesting as an idea, but it was executed poorly.

If these things where just "executed poorly" They would just be "fixed" and not "changed". Battle system is seeing as much as a 70% change and the job system too from the bits of info,poll and interviews looks like it will see a lot of change.

If the only problem was that these system where rushed and not completed , then all Yoshi-P's team would have to do is complete them, not change it. Things would have been completed by now and nobody would complain anymore... but guess what? That's not the cause. These system suck at the core and because of that Yoshi-p's team has to redo them from scratch and this is why 8 months later we are still waiting.

You may like Tanaka because of FFXI but let's face the truth, the dude seriously dropped the ball on this one.

[darkstarpoet1]

If these things where just "executed poorly" They would just be "fixed" and not "changed". Battle system is seeing as much as a 70% change and the job system too from the bits of info,poll and interviews looks like it will see a lot of change.

If the only problem was that these system where rushed and not completed , then all Yoshi-P's team would have to do is complete them, not change it. Things would have been completed by now and nobody would complain anymore... but guess what? That's not the cause. These system suck at the core and because of that Yoshi-p's team has to redo them from scratch and this is why 8 months later we are still waiting.

You may like Tanaka because of FFXI but let's face the truth, the dude seriously dropped the ball on this one.

they are being changed instead of fixed because yoshi wants to make final fantaswow. they could have easily been fixed and tweaked, but instead we get a new director that wanted a completely different direction than the game was built for.

[Zenaku]

they are being changed instead of fixed because yoshi wants to make final fantaswow. they could have easily been fixed and tweaked, but instead we get a new director that wanted a completely different direction than the game was built for.

o.O nice someone else who think that yoshi is making this in to Final Fantasy Warcraft XIV

[Gramul]

If these things where just "executed poorly" They would just be "fixed" and not "changed". Battle system is seeing as much as a 70% change and the job system too from the bits of info,poll and interviews looks like it will see a lot of change.

If the only problem was that these system where rushed and not completed , then all Yoshi-P's team would have to do is complete them, not change it. Things would have been completed by now and nobody would complain anymore... but guess what? That's not the cause. These system suck at the core and because of that Yoshi-p's team has to redo them from scratch and this is why 8 months later we are still waiting.

You may like Tanaka because of FFXI but let's face the truth, the dude seriously dropped the ball on this one.

We asked for drastic change. As I recall, Tanaka's plan was originally to finish the system, but he was axed from the project and Yoshi asked us what we wanted, and it turns out we wanted the whole system to change. I'm not saying he's great and to be honest I really don't care about him as a person, but I don't think it's right to go on an emotional tirade on him or to claim the ideas he had where "behind" just because they where incomplete (and we know they where incomplete because promised features where and still are missing).

He is not solely to blame for the under performance of the game; just because he's the man in charge does not make him the scapegoat for blame. Communication is extremely important when working on a project, and from what we can understand, Square has been having this issue for at least the past 5 or 6 years.

Also, do you happen to have a link to the interviews that explain how the system will change. I would love to find out where they're going with it.

[darkstarpoet1]

We asked for drastic change. As I recall, Tanaka's plan was originally to finish the system, but he was axed from the project and Yoshi asked us what we wanted, and it turns out we wanted the whole system to change. I'm not saying he's great and to be honest I really don't care about him as a person, but I don't think it's right to go on an emotional tirade on him or to claim the ideas he had where "behind" just because they where incomplete (and we know they where incomplete because promised features where and still are missing).

He is not solely to blame for the under performance of the game; just because he's the man in charge does not make him the scapegoat for blame. Communication is extremely important when working on a project, and from what we can understand, Square has been having this issue for at least the past 5 or 6 years.

Also, do you happen to have a link to the interviews that explain how the system will change. I would love to find out where they're going with it.

not entirely true. the questions were so vague about what drastic changes were that most people looked at the game in general and said "yes i want drastic change so i vote yes". i was one of them, but if it was asked do you want to remove the battle system in place and add in auto attack to replace it as drastic change i for one would have voted no to that drastic change.

[Majidah]

Yeah, the same product with the rushed release.

That's funny, because I paid for a full game. Tanaka basically made really pretty chair legs that could potentially have been base for a nice chair (with the ammount of work needed to be put into it outnumbering the one that was actually done), and sold them to me as a finished product.


Then he balanced them inbetween the ground and my asscheeks and watched as I wiggled in agony trying to make them work as a real chair.

I can't believe people are making a tanaka appreciation thread. Did the guy have good ideas? Sure. But the ass sold us an unfinished product. It was so unfinished the new head designer isn't ready to charge the players to pay a monthly fee.
Where has tanaka said he felt the game was unfinished and a bunch of faceless suits forced him into releasing it?

And even in that case, tanaka himself stated he designed the awful launch UI. And that was pretty much the one complete thing on XIV.

Rushed release? Get a grip, there was a lot wrong on xiv due to tanaka's lead that had nothing to do with time, and so very little right.