*Facepalm* From reading the beginning paragraph I knew this thread was going to turn into... well not worth the time.
*Facepalm* From reading the beginning paragraph I knew this thread was going to turn into... well not worth the time.

<3No, you're SoL becasue you didn't take me and people like me that didn't choose an "optimal" class. Lots of us are just plain awesome to run with. If you and people like you want to be min/max elitest tards then fine, I'll take the fun awesome people that don't have sticks burried so far up thier butts there are leaves coming out of thier noses.
/characters
Right, so I try to read logged out and let everyone have opinions but this crap really needs to stop.
There are a few skills in other jobs that may help out the group in tough situations but they are FAR from REQUIRED, If they're really designed to REQUIRE something, chances are before you can attain something or go somewhere the game wouldn't allow it.
(E.G Advanced Jobs, Whitemage/ Black mage) It's a improved base class, but the base class can still perform the same if not more moves than the advanced class, so Why have them at all if the skills are all that matter? ( Res being available to all base but 2 advanced) However, thankfully the jobs provide with more skills and bonuses that fit unique to our roles therefore they' become a core component and required to perform optimally AND MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS TO EQUIP/USE ITEMS.
NO WHERE, does it ever state that (Gae Bolge Item level 90 Requirements DRG LNC PGL 20, MRD 35, Spacecow 50) Content may be harder without some niche skills, but usually if you're doing your job right then it should never hit that point. Each one is capable of accomplishing endgame without the need for other skill, they're nice. But again not a requirement.
A healer who doesn't let the party die will probabaly never use swiftcast raise ever. A healer who THINKS They're he shit and lets someone die because their holy, will probabably need Swiftcast raise a lot.
And Yes, Gear does matter quite a lot. Look at a damage formula and do the math, Like most people you probabaly never made it past College Algebra 1 but you can try.
I find this thread amusing.
Personal opinion on that matter ? I don't care. Play what you like. You will be much more efficient at it than playing something you don't like.
Edit: By the way, I 2 healed Titan HM with the worst gear ever, without THM or ACN leveled up more than 15. And yes, I got my Relic. With a PuG. If you know your class, you shouldn't NEED to have cross-class skills (although I admit, it would help)
Last edited by Azgarde; 10-01-2013 at 04:37 AM.

ITT: OP is prime example of the type of elistist cockroach that we need out of this game, and that will hopefully leave by the time the 30 days trial expires.
Can't wait for those ''pros'' (big twelve feet tall quotes here) to be gone so we can have a nice community out there!![]()


I love these kind of threads where some random person makes a random thread to post a random opinion and tries to pass it off as if it's some kind of universal truth that only he/she is enlightened enough to understand and therefore must spread the word to the masses while boosting his ego as being the enlightened one.
If you had a bad experience with people who lacks the experience or skill needed to do certain contents, I'd suggest you talk to those people directly instead of posting another "if only people were as awesome as me" rant on the forums because you won't find the ego boost you need here.
I know, don't feed the blah blah blah. Sorry.

All subclasses to level 50....
Yeah,how about no.

You can easily do all the content up to B.Coil in AK Greens.....DL is not needed.One of my biggest annoyances when building an Endgame Party is how unprepared most players are for the more difficult content. I get so sad when I post a shout which looks for certain criteria, which is Darklight, Relic, and various others elements and still people respond to my shout who 'think' just because they have the gear they are prepared.
Please, take time to level BOTH of your Support Roles to 50. Otherwise, I and many other endgame groups will not accept you. Which means, you need three level 50s for endgame. Not one.
Since when was min/maxing the definition of endgame? Endgame doesn't implicitly mean you must have the optimal setup for each boss, each turn, each bowel movment. I used to play like you in an old MMO (the one that shall not be named), OP. It'll wear on you and hopefully you'll be able to enjoy the game and have fun.ith the people playing - all of them.
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