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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You people are the most cold hearted people i every meet you due understand that the CEO hurry them up when he himself said it was not ready? What the hell have yoshi-p done? in the last 5month noting he have give us noting that would make you play longer then you are now. So please shut up about Tanaka he version of the game would have been better if he had time to get it done and just change the name of the class back to rdm,whm,blm,war,pld,monk,thf.

    He did not get fire he just drop out because you can't blame the stockholder or the CEO for messing it up and making the game release before it time. Yoshi-p have not gain my trust and never going too because making dungeon/raids remind me a lot of WoW and don't say ffxi had them because yoshi-p said the dungeon going to be a lot like other games in the market so at the end we getting a upgrade version of wow/rift dungeon -.-.

    Wait 1-2years and see how yoshi-p does it can go both ways here bad or good if Tanaka and yoshi-p work together on making this game better then maybe this game had a chance at a good start when ps3 come out. but so far there noting in the game and there not going to be for other 1year.


    So i give you this shut up no one cares leave it as this yoshi-p or tanaka have done noting for this game and yoshi-p all is doing is making this a wow-clone little by little so is that better then what tanaka was doing? nope it's about the same thing this game does not even feel like a final fantasy feel like a endless grind to max level with noting to show for it beside good looks and a feel voice over CS. If the main plot was 100% voice over then i think it would have turn better but it's not they said key point would be and not even key point are lol there some key point that should have really been voice over and some are voice over and not even key points.

    So please shut up all you doing is being a @??-???? about the problem this game is not going to be any better then ffxi it wont ever get 3-10mil players matter what yoshi or tanaka would have done.

    if they make this a 100% wow clone then hey they get a 9.0score and 3-5mil players and i just end up quiting because they be no hope for mmo that are not a dam wow clone.
    I lol'ed at this sanctimonious pablum ... thanks for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    I lol'ed at this sanctimonious pablum ... thanks for that
    Your welcome i guess -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    for me am not saying Tanaka or yoshi is better if they both work on ffxiv from day one this game would have turn out better. Yoshi-p have done noting for this game and everyone pray him like he god to this game saying that he give "Hope" to the game he have done noting the game is still the same as whe tanaka was in beside a few fix here and there but noting so great. The Quest don't even have CS so so too i see something that make me play more then 1hour per leve reset yoshi have not yet gain my trust in making this game better.

    I hoping this game stay unique and does not become a wow-clone.
    that's something you can see AFTER the infamous 1.18, not before.
    we don't know how combat sistem will be.
    we don't know how those "dungeons'n raids" will be structured.
    we don't know even WHAT are the grand companies.
    the only thing we know is companies were ready, but were empty in content, so yoshi delayed when they had something to do inside.Tanaka would reseased as it ? Yes,no, maybe, we don't know.
    And for gods sake, every time the "no cutscene in sidequests" meme. In ffxi the general quests didn't had any cs. The one having where all bound in some way to the main story, with few exceptions.
    assuming one can't make new content in a snap, can we wait the first meat ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    that's something you can see AFTER the infamous 1.18, not before.
    we don't know how combat sistem will be.
    we don't know how those "dungeons'n raids" will be structured.
    we don't know even WHAT are the grand companies.
    the only thing we know is companies were ready, but were empty in content, so yoshi delayed when they had something to do inside.Tanaka would reseased as it ? Yes,no, maybe, we don't know.
    And for gods sake, every time the "no cutscene in sidequests" meme. In ffxi the general quests didn't had any cs. The one having where all bound in some way to the main story, with few exceptions.
    assuming one can't make new content in a snap, can we wait the first meat ?
    Dungeon would be somewhat like other mmo yoshi have said this in one of his interview. Battle now that something i like to see because that can change the overall gameplay i also want to see class system if they both good then ffxiv wont be that bad

    Tanaka said yes,no,maybe too he was 100% sure when yoshi say something he 100% if not he just say we don't know atm like what SE alway do so that still the same like before it a SE thing not a tanaka thing.
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    I think you're making mountains out of molehills, Tanaka hasn't been canned for FFXIV. He still contributes to the game, it's just now yoshi-P in charge instead of him.

    But someone clearly was responsible for the bad launch. As the project manager, your visibility as the face leading the project is also its price. That's how it is in businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think you're making mountains out of molehills, Tanaka hasn't been canned for FFXIV. He still contributes to the game, it's just now yoshi-P in charge instead of him.

    But someone clearly was responsible for the bad launch. As the project manager, your visibility as the face leading the project is also its price. That's how it is in businesses.
    He working on FFXI again as Producer if i remember right from ffxi forums there a few post and one dev said from producer tanaka but i could be wrong. He no longer working on ffxiv as of now at least maybe when ffxi get cancel due to ps2 limits he work on ffxiv again.
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    lol, new penny arcade strip seems like this forum
    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/5/16/
    that means i don't want punch anyone of you '-' just the old belgianrofl maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    that's something you can see AFTER the infamous 1.18, not before.
    we don't know how combat sistem will be.
    we don't know how those "dungeons'n raids" will be structured.
    we don't know even WHAT are the grand companies.
    the only thing we know is companies were ready, but were empty in content, so yoshi delayed when they had something to do inside.Tanaka would reseased as it ? Yes,no, maybe, we don't know.
    And for gods sake, every time the "no cutscene in sidequests" meme. In ffxi the general quests didn't had any cs. The one having where all bound in some way to the main story, with few exceptions.
    assuming one can't make new content in a snap, can we wait the first meat ?
    so true

    and its funny because we really don't know what Tanaka really had in mind. Looking at guild-leves and the general uncreative design, mob-behaviour, boring undefined jobs... and ofc the MW lol... sorry but how can someone assume that Tanaka would have been all that great in the future. Well maybe yes but looking at what he did so far, i have my doubts.

    On the other hand i think that a lot of content is still incluenced by him and the former crew unless they really stopped working at late alpha/early beta stage.

    And IF this game will be getting a wow clone it will just fail. Every developer who thinks to be able to create a wow killer, or a clone that gets over 3 mio player (for a longer time then just 1-2 months) is just stupid.
    The only wow killer on the market possible is wow itself. Since with that playerbase THEY have to fail hard.

    Theres only the "graphic" reason atm for people to switch to other wow clones (thats why wow clones usually end up dead very fast due to the lack of content - i don't like wow but thats a fact, thinking about the rift playerbase - a lot came from wow and are now bored after hitting 50 with the 2nd or 3rd character already... rift is nothing new and the dynamic events are not dynamic... questing is worse then wow, so only the graphic remains... )

    I just hope SE realises that goin the mainstream mmo way doesn't work anymore, either you invent something new, fun (not just new for the sake of it being new lol), entertaining and something that LASTS!!! real dynamic events, or changing events, mazes etc. is what keeps people playing. Dungeons are great but they usually loose attraction if they are not extremely huge and well designed and offer plenty of content (for many differerent levels usually).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    that's something you can see AFTER the infamous 1.18, not before.
    we don't know how combat sistem will be.
    we don't know how those "dungeons'n raids" will be structured.
    we don't know even WHAT are the grand companies.
    the only thing we know is companies were ready, but were empty in content, so yoshi delayed when they had something to do inside.Tanaka would reseased as it ? Yes,no, maybe, we don't know.
    And for gods sake, every time the "no cutscene in sidequests" meme. In ffxi the general quests didn't had any cs. The one having where all bound in some way to the main story, with few exceptions.
    assuming one can't make new content in a snap, can we wait the first meat ?
    Patch 1.18-1.19 is definetly gonna be the "make-or-break" patch for this game. Hopefully it will adhear to that word "INFAMOUS" or we'll definetly see the end of FFXIV. People, can we just say NO to repeat threads as one of this kind already exist!? :P
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    All you guys are supposed to do is say thanks to Tanaka. Is that so hard?
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