Attention Overgeared DPS in AK

[Amyas]

If you want to go all out, fine, but do it on the marked mob, if not, you get to be the tank and I'll leave. I'm not there to play a game of trash mob ping-pong with you, especially when you've apparently ran it enough to know better.

EDIT: Just got out of a run in progress (starting just before accessory chest) with some bad A's whose tank had d/c'd that were 'over'geared (possibly better than the ones I was playing ping-pong with earlier), beat the boss @69 mins remaining, they didn't have the same problems as the ones I made this thread for ;p (though me and the healer did play a bit of houndlight pong, but that was a failure on my part. And it actually died fast!) So all you folks saying 'l2tank'... just stop. It just shows that you don't know the hate mechanics as well as you think you do.

[Alish]

As the saying goes, you take it, you tank it.

[UMiahNaweh]

That's the difference between doing AK in 25 minutes versus doing AK in 40 minutes. Nobody cares if they pull aggro off you, including the healer, because it's just trash and nobody is in any real danger when everything dies in 10 seconds and everyone wants to get through the dungeon fast.

[MaFi0s0]

Are you the type of tank who whacks mob 1 until it dies then switches to mob 2 leaving mob 3 untouched or only whacked once?

[AridElf]

Are you the type of tank who whacks mob 1 until it dies then switches to mob 2 leaving mob 3 untouched or only whacked once?

Are you the type of healer that spams AoE heals and wonders why they pull aggro?

It's easy to assume another player is bad, more often than not it really is the dps not hitting the correct marked target. If the mobs die within 10 seconds fine, but let me know that beforehand so I know not to waste my time trying my damn hardest to pull them all back onto me.


*Edit - Noticed on the lodestone that we have the same Nameday and Guardian, woo!

[Amyas]

That's the difference between doing AK in 25 minutes versus doing AK in 40 minutes. Nobody cares if they pull aggro off you, including the healer, because it's just trash and nobody is in any real danger when everything dies in 10 seconds and everyone wants to get through the dungeon fast.

How is it quicker to chaotically burn down three mobs at the same time very slowly with the tank running around trying to reestablish hate rather than just burning em down one at a time almost instantly? These guys had AF+1 DL and relics and couldn't keep the summoners from summoning because of this ><

Hope it was worth it to them for waiting on a new tank and the possible requeueing just for the instance though.

Are you the type of tank who whacks mob 1 until it dies then switches to mob 2 leaving mob 3 untouched or only whacked once?

lol, no. I mark one, flash, +enmity combo on mark, flash or overpower if necessary while tabbing through to check on the parties hate and using +enmity combo accordingly. Are you the type of dd that ignores marks and goes all out on w/e because why not? Hope you like waiting.

If the healer is bad, the dps will watch there threat, but if I as a DPS can tank one trash with little to no risk of death, THANK the DPS for speeding up the run rather than slowing it to let you tank.

That's just it. Its not faster. Its more difficult and takes longer. How is letting the priests summon void wraiths because you want to use aoes and not (focus target) faster? Imo its quicker to burn em down one at a time almost instantly rather than have dds all on different mobs xD

[MaFi0s0]

Just ignore them then.

[KogaDrake]

If you want to go all out, fine, but do it on the marked mob, if not, you get to be the tank and I'll leave. I'm not there to play a game of trash mob ping-pong with you, especially when you've apparently ran it enough to know better.

dear tank (overgeared tanks too),

if my `over' geared DPS uses any buffs I'm tanking even the marked mob. I enter AK expecting to tank a good part of the trash, its trash and to hold back to not tank and take longer isnt worth the time. I'll hold back a bit on the bosses for you, but dont expect to tank trash, and get mad when you lose hate.

If the healer is bad, the dps will watch there threat, but if I as a DPS can tank one trash with little to no risk of death, THANK the DPS for speeding up the run rather than slowing it to let you tank.

Signed
-a geared bard who tanks AK trash

[Pellegri]

Attention undergeared tanks in AK, please mark your mobs. Countless times I've done it now where the tank never marks and then goes "why you do that?", it wouldn't be an issue if the dps was overgeared if tanks would actually mark in the first place, many of which do not.

[UMiahNaweh]

How is it quicker to chaotically burn down three mobs at the same time very slowly with the tank running around trying to reestablish hate rather than just burning em down one at a time almost instantly? These guys had AF+1 DL and relics and couldn't keep the summoners from summoning because of this ><
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Idk, maybe they paid for their Titan runs. I'm a Summoner myself, and I usually go to AK with a Bard or a Black Mage. I will AoE the entire group of mobs while focusing on one target at melee range, so if I pull aggro the mob doesn't move. 90% of the time our tank is not concerned with regaining aggro on a mob that I or the other DPS pulls when it has less than 50% because it's going to be dead in 2-3 seconds anyway. I often have aggro on 1 or two of the mobs because of AoE but they're all at 40% health by the time the first one is down usually, so yes it is a lot faster. Every time I do AK like this it's ~25 minutes.