My WAR & the two aspects to make you tank effectively!

[Tronic]

Provoke is kinda pointless. All it does it puts you top of enmity +1 that's all. Flash is less effective than overpower

You wouldn't believe how many times I have to use provoke when derp DPS hit the wrong mobs or a whm goes medica 2 happy right off the bat.

Flash is less powerful, but has advantages:
-it saves your tp bigtime
-casting time is faster
-it's 360 degrees so it's great when mobs are scattered
-you can use it during pacification
-oh and it won't break cc

[CurlyBruce]

Provoke is kinda pointless. All it does it puts you top of enmity +1 that's all. Flash is less effective than overpower

You need Provoke for Turn 2 Coil. And it's still useful to have should you die and get raised.

[Hachiko]

Provoke is kinda pointless. All it does it puts you top of enmity +1 that's all. Flash is less effective than overpower

You are wrong on both points.

[BadRNG]

Provoke is kinda pointless. All it does it puts you top of enmity +1 that's all. Flash is less effective than overpower

Which is very useful. Whether it be for tank switching, healer spaming med2, or accidents happening and getting aggro back after a rez. It also has really nice range, so you can use it to pull stuff like the succubus in AK. All of those are pretty situational I will admit, but I'd take having that option over the puny second wind heal.

Flash doesn't do as much aggro, but you shouldn't be using it as a total replacement. It's another situational ability; can be used when pacified from Berserk, won't break CC, doesn't cost TP, and doesn't need to be aimed so it can hit awkwardly spawning/grouped enemies.

[Terabyt3]

If you include Flash and Provoke I'd probably drop internal release and Featherfoot from that set up to fit them in but i love IR for the chance to crit the IB's!

[Terabyt3]

You are wrong on both points.

Not really. You flash a mob and I'll overpower Ill get hate everytime

[Lhun]

With Ifrit's axe (or was it garuda's?) it healed me for a whopping ~300, so I took it off the bar. I haven't tested it with bravura but I can't imagine that making such a big difference.

I never, ever, get less then 456 with second wind. You're doing something wrong.

It scales with attack power. Try using Mantra and berzerk + wind. Coupled with critical bonuses you get all over the place, you could even try mantra, zerk, release + wind. You will get 750-1000.

Another thing you can do is mantra (or convalescence) > zerk > unchained > wind, then hit your infuriate again. Guaranteed super high wind. You need to combo it for it to be useful, it's weak on it's own. Most of those other skills don't get used regularly, but when comboed with wind, I had a "a-HA!" moment, because it went from a mediocre cure to a HOLY CRAP, THIS IS USEFUL! Self heal that I use often.

[Lhun]

You are wrong on both points.

Hachiko - you are absolutely right. Provoke is the most important tank skill in the game, bar none. If you die you get wiped off the enminity table. If you get battle raised it's IMPERATIVE that provoke is used. In fact, using provoke can give you the edge you need when medica II is used.

[Lhun]

Given it occupies 1 of only 5 cross class skill slot I prefer taking something else. I use internal release, convalescence, flash, provoke and featherfoot.

Tip: Try not using featherfoot, swap it for mantra Make up for it by using bloodbath + vengeance. guaranteed health over time on strikes vs chance to dodge, guaranteed health wins every time.. Internal release can be pretty useful after a zerk, it's a pretty high beast/wind critical chance.

However, I hate relying on chances. Same reason I won't use awareness - a chance to take less critical is not as good as something that is guaranteed.

[Sapphidia]

Provoke is hands down the most useful cross-class a warrior can take.

- Regain full threat after dying if ressed.
- Swapping tanks if needed.
- Grabbing an add that's just spawned that's aggroed on a Healer (VITAL for offtanking Garuda Hard if you're grabbing sisters).

And as a Bonus:
- Pull mobs from a much longer range than Tomahawk if you need to pull certain things (eg, separating succubi from packs in AK without aggroing others)
- Snap grab adds from longer range and off the GCD.