Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

[KupoMania]

If he wants his so called dps buff for melee then have them lose their positional necesities for their abilities. Oh and while we are at it monks can lose forms and the benefits and dragoons can lose all positional benefit buffs while they are at it. That way they can dps from wherever on the boss withought penalty the same as bards, and they wont have their potency 200 abilities from the positional bonuses, combos or stance bonuses either.

That way theu dps to their hearts content withought needing to worry about where they are standing or watnot to do their max dps.

Oh wait.....then they\\\\'re just a melee bard with a ma ptency 110 ability amd LESS utility. At least the way monk and dragoon are now sure u miss maybe 2 abilities at most per thing? A good melee uses their abilities while moving out of and into range to maximise their dps. And if they DO for watever reason miss, the next 3 abilities will hit hard enough to put them back ontop of the bard anyway.

[KupoMania]

Thats all assuming the dragoon/monk know wat they are doing and can predict when a boss will move from tank movement or watnot like good melee. No matter how \\'broken\\' a class may appear, a good player on a so called worse class will always beat the supposadly broken and OP class thats being played by an average or crap player of said class.

[Shazarak]

I stopped myself at page 8 when everything turned up into a mess of bad words and ppls insulting each others..


First of all, you should play a class because you enjoy it. Not because it is the best!
You should play lancer because you like the playstyle, the skills and the way it is.
Same for every other classes.

In every game melee have cons compared to ranged.


Now with these things pointed out:

From a bard perspective (yes, I am a bard) I feel we have not the same fun as a melee.
This is a game and is meant to give us fun! Don't look at others, think for yourself.
Ask yourself:"Am I having fun playing my class?"
If yes, then you should not complaining for other classes being better than you at DPS or whatever..

If no then change class, but don't look for another class because it is better than your previous one. Search a class you enjoy and have fun playing with it!
If you like melee, then play melee!


One thing I would like to see for BRD in the future is this kind of "BUFF" as a passive:
- ARCHER: no debuff if skilling while moving
- BRD: -10% dmg if skilling while moving
- (future SNIPER or whatever class we'll have): -20% dmg if skilling while moving
(having no songs and hopefully more "dmg skills" this can help a lot for not behing OP)
"This passive will popup when we move and last for 1-1.5s after we stop moving."

With these changes we Bards MUST use our song only if needed and move ourself ONLY if needed.

Also this change will give us more fun! (which is the much more interesting thing)
You have to position yourself correct to maximize your dps because if you keep on moving while skilling your dps will suffer.

Another way is to apply cast on some skill.
I can suggest: WIND BITE (mainly because I hate to see my char moving on the floor)
Also AOE skill can put you on root.

However....the point is: BRD need to be much more fun!
Other DPS are fun enough because they are tricky to play!
This is what a game need and what we deserve, a game who can give us fun and a class which need experience to be played well.

No nerf, no OP, just fun in everything we do.

It is really funny to see ppl complaining and shouting for a NERF or OP things around in a game which is (at the moment) ONLY PVE!!
What when we get PVP??? AHAHAHAH

C'mon guys...play what's fun for you and stop complaining about thing in a PVE game which is out from e little more than a month!

That's a game.. Try to Have Fun!

[Gallows]

Thats all assuming the dragoon/monk know wat they are doing and can predict when a boss will move from tank movement or watnot like good melee. No matter how \\'broken\\' a class may appear, a good player on a so called worse class will always beat the supposadly broken and OP class thats being played by an average or crap player of said class.

A god among gamers playing one class can perform better than an idiot playing another class. Balance achieved!

So if youre a good player you can only group with average and shitty players because otherwise youll look crap in comparison. What if youre in an FC where the worst players are good, the average players are great and theres also a few brilliant ones? Youll look like a f... retard.

Sarcasm aside, I dont think dumbing down melee is the solution here. Why? Because it would create more boring gameplay. Nobody wants that. My suggestion - dont remove challenges from playing melee. Add some to playing bards.

[ilJumperMT]

If he wants his so called dps buff for melee then have them lose their positional necesities for their abilities. Oh and while we are at it monks can lose forms and the benefits and dragoons can lose all positional benefit buffs while they are at it. That way they can dps from wherever on the boss withought penalty the same as bards, and they wont have their potency 200 abilities from the positional bonuses, combos or stance bonuses either.

That way theu dps to their hearts content withought needing to worry about where they are standing or watnot to do their max dps.

Oh wait.....then they\\\\'re just a melee bard with a ma ptency 110 ability amd LESS utility. At least the way monk and dragoon are now sure u miss maybe 2 abilities at most per thing? A good melee uses their abilities while moving out of and into range to maximise their dps. And if they DO for watever reason miss, the next 3 abilities will hit hard enough to put them back ontop of the bard anyway.

200 potency ability on monk? omg how!? the only 200 potency attack you get is Mercy Stroke from MRD!

[elementxstyle]

are you seriosly gonna popup buffs to kill a stone?

That's not the point. The point was that we have powerful burst when we stack our cooldowns. It doesn't have to be to kill Gaols.
Just because you wouldn't pop cooldowns to kill a Gaol - doesn't mean the burst doesn't exist.

[traja]

I am having a very hard time justifying to myself why I should continue leveling my BLM. The bard has 100% dps while moving, top tier damage and the best utility in the game. If and when PvP is added it is going to be even worse for the rest of the classes. You never want to be stuck in place casting in PvP.

I don't think this one has an easy fix either. A large dps nerf will just kill bard as a class. I'm afraid this one requires redesigning for both classes and content. That will take time and in the meantime FOTM rerolling is looking like a very good option.

[Rhained]

I am having a very hard time justifying to myself why I should continue leveling my BLM. The bard has 100% dps while moving, top tier damage and the best utility in the game. If and when PvP is added it is going to be even worse for the rest of the classes. You never want to be stuck in place casting in PvP.

I don't think this one has an easy fix either. A large dps nerf will just kill bard as a class. I'm afraid this one requires redesigning for both classes and content. That will take time and in the meantime FOTM rerolling is looking like a very good option.

Why mention pvp? we all know its extremely likely it will be a broken mess.

[Conkers]

Why nerf when you can bring others up to the level

The answer would be logic.

1 - Because often it is more logical to nerf and with a greater likelihood of achieving balance, e.g - say in a game you have 8 DPS classes, 7 of which are balanced, 1 is OP, it makes no sense to waste resources trying to buff/rebalance 7 classes to the level of the OP 1, it is also more likely to fail and create more imbalances trying to rebalance 7 classes rather than 1.

2 - Sometimes the skill/mechanic causing the imbalance is simply game breaking, the only way to solve that is by nerfing that skill/mechanic.

3 - If you buff up everything to the OP class, then you have to waste further resources on adjusting the entire games content to match the new across the board OP power level of the classes.

[Shazarak]

I am having a very hard time justifying to myself why I should continue leveling my BLM.

You lost the reason for why you should play a game: to HAVE FUN!

So, until we get PVP there's no reason complaining and crying about a class or another.
You should play whatever fits your playstyle and whatever you like most!

Do you like BLM? More than others? So play BLM! If not...then choose a class you find much more interesting, be it BRD or not.

This is another "Mom he's better then me and I want to be the best of all! weeee-weeee" post!

You can find the answer of your question by answering at this:
"Are you having fun with BLM?" --> If yes, keep playing it and maybe try another class or two to see if there are other classes which can be for you. If no, then you just have to search for something else.


For all of you guys, here a quick guide:

- Do you like TANK style?
[YES] - Do you like Sword+Shield and standard Tank style? --> PICK PLD
[YES] - Do you like alternative tank with a bit more of dps, tricky to play? --> PICK WAR
[NO] - So go on and don't choose PLD or WAR

Do you like HEALER style?
[YES] - Do you prefer standard healer style? --> PICK WHM
[YES] - Do you prefer healer+pethealer a bit more tricky and different from standard? --> PICK SCH
[NO] - So go on and don't choose WHM or SCH

Do you like DPS Style?
[YES] - Do you like MELEE?
--- [YES] - Do you like the Fist-style and position-skill? --> PICK PLG
--- [YES] - Do you like the Lance and good burst damage? --> PICK DRG
[NO] - Then you love ranged style!

Do you like Mage?
[YES] - Do you like standard mage with ability such as Fire, Blizzard and Thunder? --> PICK BLM
[YES] - Do you like debuff class with DoTs and Pets? --> PICK SMN
[NO] - Then there's last question..

Do you like BRD?
[YES] - You found your class.
[NO] - Go on and play another game or come back maybe in the future!


Ok now you can easly replace "Do you like" with "Is it more fun for you"..

The fact is that in a PVE game you just need to find a class to have fun with. Nothing else matter..
If you are not having fun with your class..then change it!

If you are unable to find a class which can give you fun while playing ....then simply STOP PLAYING!
This happened to me on GW2! None class was interesting for me, I tried one and find it not even enojyable...I stopped, that's all.

Sounds to me like you love BLM but you are crying because you wish that BLM should be the best in the game.
The same for others, PLG, DRG, SMN...they want to be the top in everything and instead of learning how to be the top of their capabilities they are coming on the forum to cry and ask for improvement because they want to be as less risky or more reward for that lvl of risky!
This is how SE decide the game should be, things will change in the future but since the game is out from less than 2 month is pretty early to talk about OP, NERF and bla bla bla (crybabyomg!)..

Gamers should focus only on having fun!
Here we have just one problem: BRD is quite too easy to play with and not even fun enough compared to other classes!

There's no other valid complaint on the Earth for someone who is searching for FUN!
If you just want to be the BEST PLAYER of the world..then you can be that player with a class different from BRD!
If you are looking for fun you can have it with every class! You just need to figured out which is the one for you without being jealous of others..