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  1. #31
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    That is just dumb if you are getting booted. I've heard that people do not want Black Mage on Titan but that is it...and that is just a small minority. BARD is best though...I'm not biased or anthing...LOL
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
    FC: CASCADIA
    Playing since Beta phase 3

  2. #32
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    Lucipurr's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Estrella Light
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Lol everyone, clearly a fake story. He should know BLM is the best dps given his +1 and Darklights.
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  3. #33
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    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
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    Phantom
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    Dragoon Lv 88
    Can I just ask a stupid question...? What exactly is a PUG run?
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  4. #34
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    Evilized's Avatar
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    Character
    Pretty Lights
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    blm is pretty consistently on top of the dps meter. if people are kicking you for low dps then you either need to learn your correct rotation or they are just retarded.
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  5. #35
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    ventlus's Avatar
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    Mizu Hana
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    no blm's parse the same as any other class. In coil we run 2 brds, 1 mnnk and 1 blm. All classes stay at 250+ dps which mnk at the top cause their op
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  6. #36
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    Balaur's Avatar
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    Balaur Bondoc
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    you can download the app and test it yourself. i did that for that reason to see if ppl trying to fake my dps.
    Makes you wonder if the parser, which isn't technically legit, is correctly evaluating damage from all classes appropriately. Makes you also wonder whether people using this thing to evaluate damage is forcing them to incorrectly arrange parties. I should think waiting for the add-on tools to be made available by SE and making a "parser" or meter out of that would be more appropriate.
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  7. #37
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    ventlus's Avatar
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    Mizu Hana
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Balaur View Post
    Makes you wonder if the parser, which isn't technically legit, is correctly evaluating damage from all classes appropriately. Makes you also wonder whether people using this thing to evaluate damage is forcing them to incorrectly arrange parties. I should think waiting for the add-on tools to be made available by SE and making a "parser" or meter out of that would be more appropriate.
    it is believed that the log just clumps things together so its not the parsers fault. But the parser does show random shit sometimes like internal release doing dammage even tho its a crit cooldown. Its defintley not accurate just a base line tool. But i've seen a blm in shitty gear parse at 200+ all the way through ak, alot of blms just dont know the optimal rotation, its same thing with people that play other classes.
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  8. #38
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    Balaur's Avatar
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    Balaur Bondoc
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ventlus View Post
    it is believed that the log just clumps things together so its not the parsers fault. But the parser does show random shit sometimes like internal release doing dammage even tho its a crit cooldown. Its defintley not accurate just a base line tool. But i've seen a blm in shitty gear parse at 200+ all the way through ak, alot of blms just dont know the optimal rotation, its same thing with people that play other classes.
    I'm sure for some BLM, it's about the fact that the rotation changes substantively through their growth. You start with having to switch around using Fire > Trans > Blizzard > Trans > Fire, but then you get Fire3 and you ignore the Fire > Blizz interjection with Transpose. Eventually, you get to not using Transpose except at the end of a fight to switch into ice so you have mana. And this is me talking without even having all the skills! It's just easier to go with what is "easy" from the past.

    It severely hampers BLM though that they get so few skills they can use while moving, forcing them to be more or less turrets. Scathe spam is useful on trash when you have to move, and I can see Scathe spam in AK trash because of the numbers of them and their throwing out BadStuff all over. Bad BLM also don't Sleep, as this would simplify AK trash SO MUCH. Not fast enough to destroy Marionettes on Psycheflayer before the second one comes up? Sleep the new one (can it be? don't know). Sleep the pack before Demon Dragon boss and pick them off one by one. Sleep the gnats on DW?! (No, seriously, has anyone tried to see if this is effective?) So on, and so forth.
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    Last edited by Balaur; 09-29-2013 at 06:27 PM.

  9. #39
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    charlemagne's Avatar
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    Character
    Charlemagne Ifrit
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Anybody who doesn't rate BLM should see the video of the three BLM and one WHM clear of Ampador Keep.
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  10. #40
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    Character
    Rukyo Wakahisa
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    you can download the app and test it yourself. i did that for that reason to see if ppl trying to fake my dps.
    This is the problem. My FC downloaded the FFXIV app, and we found it to be a bit buggy with averages. Totals seemed a little better, but I would take results from this app with a grain of salt.

    People booting classes/jobs based on this app alone are idiots.
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