Blackmages dps? Being booted from parties.

[Reika]

Even if the devs provided us with an official damage parser/meter, the fact remains that not every class is or will ever be equal in damage output. Different damage classes excel in different situations. Looking at a simple "final" parse score is entirely inaccurate. 99% of the people who use parsers do NOT know how to properly interpret the data. It can be a highly useful tool, but in the hands of amateurs, it quickly becomes very detrimental to both the gameplay, and game balance.

And for MMO's that is called poor balance.

"Hi guys, I'm DPS but I WILL do lower DPS than this other dps class with the same Ilvl gear, because I'm situational"

yes. that makes perfect sense.......... In a single player RPG. Doing things like this, they will design monsters that will "unintentionally" make X class useless or less optimal because X class is just good for the stuns but "we dont need stun" or just good for the silence but "we dont need silence" or excels at slowing but "the boss is immune to slow" or some other nonsense.

In short, one DPS being designed to do less damage than another because it is designed to be situational is the wrong way to go. Things will just go back to being like 1.0 and people won't be able to play the class they like because of exclusion. Even worse that ARR is more focused on single-job focus rather than trying to be everything. Be like Dark Knight in early XI, focus on the wrong thing and be left out of almost everything unless they simply couldn't find the desired job for the party.

I don't care for parsers either, I was just saying people will become more elitist with a proper parser, no matter how you "properly use" a parser.

go coil, then come back and tell me again, that dps classes are for dmg only and u dont need silence or stun :3

and btw.. BLM RULEZZZ!!11!1 :3 could be the envy of some pugs *screwin up my nose*

Another who fails at reading and comprehension. gg.

[TheWitcher]

Looks like a BLM trying to protect his overpowered class by making up fake stories of geting booted for low dps, BLM and Bard are by far the easiest dps to play and also the highest dps, which makes no sense since Monk is only equal if played perfectly and the boss doesnt ever cast aoe...which is none of them

[Orophin]

I wouldn't take information from a damage parser as gospel. Already people have pointed out holes in them.

[Viore]

And for MMO's that is called poor balance.

"Hi guys, I'm DPS but I WILL do lower DPS than this other dps class with the same Ilvl gear, because I'm situational"

/snip/ :3

In short, one DPS being designed to do less damage than another because it is designed to be situational is the wrong way to go. Things will just go back to being like 1.0 and people won't be able to play the class they like because of exclusion. Even worse that ARR is more focused on single-job focus rather than trying to be everything. Be like Dark Knight in early XI, focus on the wrong thing and be left out of almost everything unless they simply couldn't find the desired job for the party.

go coil, then come back and tell me again, that dps classes are for dmg only and u dont need silence or stun :3

and btw.. BLM RULEZZZ!!11!1 :3 could be the envy of some pugs *screwin up my nose*

[Terpthree]

If they parsed you, and you were bottom of the parser fully geared it means you are not playing your class correctly. BLMs have some of the highest DPS in the game, but the parser works fine for them.

[amnie]

I hate people that think you win a fight just by having high dps numbers. what good does it make when someone plays the 'best' class and they get hit by every AOE?
what good does it make when someone does provide the best dmg but keeps attacking the wrong target or for example doesn't notice when the tank loses aggro and the healer is getting killed? (yes, if that happens it's your job to save the healer, unless you're sure the tank will get the aggro back)

not forgetting to mention that as soon as you get the means to see your own dmg - especially when comparing it to other people - you lose focus. it's easily understandable human behaviour, but that doesn't make it any better.

parsers are a pest.

if you do all mechanics correctly and still don't beat the timer, then you know that you're not doing enough DPS. you don't need a program telling you that. you need brains.

[Artamie]

I hate people that think you win a fight just by having high dps numbers. what good does it make when someone plays the 'best' class and they get hit by every AOE?

I agree with this. Survival comes first before dps but I can't count the number of times where dps #1, who achieved the highest number on the parser by dying 3 times while performing only marginally better than dps #2 who survived the entire fight without wasting the whm's mp, is recognized as the vastly superior dps unless the whm makes a fuss over it.

[Gilraen]

Black mages have always been the end-all-be-all DDs, second only to one, maybe two other classes. I mean, there's a reason the term manaburn exists. Even in this game the thaumaturge is a monster. Whoever thinks otherwise has never played one, or partied with a good one. Sadly, as has been mentioned, the bad ones tend to give the class a bad light, too obsessed with putting out damage to notice their HP quickly dropping due to aggro.

[Vix_Spellweaver]

I dont like the DPS parser folks are so keen on. It doesnt take into account AOE's hit multiple things at once. All it shows is small damage to each individual mob.
Party leader is probably too stupid to realize that smaller damage across several mobs is still potentially more DPS than single target DD is pulling off.

That said, the parser is pretty good gauge of DPS on a boss fight....provided your not switching back and forth from boss to adds(which as a BLM i hope/expect your doing). Id take it with a grain of salt, the guy who booted you is either a joke...or you were really asleep and suck something horrible(my moneys on the former).

[ispano]

I agree with this. Survival comes first before dps but I can't count the number of times where dps #1, who achieved the highest number on the parser by dying 3 times while performing only marginally better than dps #2 who survived the entire fight without wasting the whm's mp, is recognized as the vastly superior dps unless the whm makes a fuss over it.

It depends on the fight, sometimes there are fights that are DPS checks, you won't clear it if the DPS doesn't perform to a certain level.