Advantages of WHM over SCH?

[Neverender]

also they claim to have fixed the dot issues in a recent update.

[sharazisspecial]

Jacina et all - Scholars can actually stack 6 dots at once with cross class (Lighning I and Aero) and their AoE dot (people forget this for some reason? probably because it has a melee range... but I just run into melee to keep it up).

Not worth putting it up on a single target (as sch), it is actully lower total potency then 1 ruin .
miasma 2 (20+(10x5)) 70 potency
Ruin/Ruin2 80 Potency

Sch and whm can contribute meaningful dps outside of coil. However when you try to dps mobs in coil, majority of your spells miss including energy drain making using them a waste of time and mana.

[Dorin]

Nobody needs WHM or SCH, Black mages are the best healers in the game anyway. Physik forever.

[Valiant]

Just cause I feel like adding this. Holy took a huge nerf from 1.0. If youtube still has the the King Mog fights look for the one with one tank and the rest WHMs. Holy (when stacked) had a much higher output than any BLM AM (Ancient Magic) spell stacked. I'd much rather have a WHM spamming Holy than wait on some DoTs from SCH. ACN is based around sustained damage while CNJ is burst. Same goes for the both classes, jobs. SMN and SCH are sustainable damage/healing while WHM is burst. Only problem with group is that all regens are per tick for cure potency and they stack. In both 8 and 24 man groups more than 1 SCH and the SCHs step on each others toes, where as all WHM regens stack.

[Cimegs5088]

One thing I felt envy about whm is their regen spell and magic defence trait for protect. Regan gvs more options in cushioning the inc dmg, while magic mitigation for protect is just awesome, at least it would be more useful for non tanks in the group.

[Valiant]

One thing I felt envy about whm is their regen spell and magic defence trait for protect. Regan gvs more options in cushioning the inc dmg, while magic mitigation for protect is just awesome, at least it would be more useful for non tanks in the group.

i agree... Fey Covenant sucks in comparison to a WHM using protect since only WHMs have shell attached.

[MaaJuice]

ive been doing alot of primal runs (hard) and everytime i have a scholar in the group i dont heal the ones that have been a little damaged. I find scholars are more of a aux healer compared to white mages. Like there heals are nowhere near the amount i (WHM) heal for. Dont get me wrong they are very useful, it free's me up to focus on the larger scale, but they are shitty compared to white mage.

[russkof]

WHM 50/ SCH 50 here, on turn 4 of coil.
I'm seeing people saying whm got more burst heal than sch.
This is so wrong. I just feel so frustrated playing as a whm when i have to. I got way less tools for the oh shit situations.. I'm talking about Sacred soil. Once u've been using this ability for a while its really difficult to not have it, i can't count the number of times it saved a tank. The simple fact that you can heal the tank for 1,5k-2k instantly and X3, while moving (being able to avoid aoes and heal at the same time is quite amazing) makes up for anything a sch would lack. Once you get to coil there are so many oh shit situations thats its not a benediction every 5min thats is gonna do the job, for sure.
Btw, I macroed my fairie heal with mine so its like all of my cures are Cure II, with infinite mana.
I actually do feel like SCH are a bit overpowered compared to whm, looking at the HPS meter during fights.

Finally, i found sch way more fun than whm. (the tools, the micro management, etc).


We work extremely well with the whm, they protect/shell and medica II, we heal and save the tanks. <3

[Ephany]

Dont get me wrong they are very useful, it free's me up to focus on the larger scale, but they are shitty compared to white mage.

The fact that you wouldn't target a member for healing for any reason at all during a HM primal is a sign of a bad healer.

I've thrown out a heal of 1500 with a shield that stops 3000 damage on top of it.
I'm sure a lot of team members would value that over a heal of 2000 followed by more damage taken meaning you need to continue to throw out heals and spend MP.
Just like the group would most likely value a group heal from a WHM rather than me.
It all comes down to the situation that you're in at the time.

Both roles have their strengths. But SCH is most certainly not "shitty".
Basing your opinion on a green number you see on the screen before you've even played or understood the role is not the right way to go about things.

[Jilse]

Nobody needs WHM or SCH, Black mages are the best healers in the game anyway. Physik forever.

I actually was stuck physicking Gorgimera fight as blm once. It was brutal. IN the end, without my nukes as dps, we lost the fight, lol.