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  1. #31
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    Bayman's Avatar
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    Bayman Man
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maplekoya View Post
    This isn't too bad.

    This is almost perfect... but I turn him a bit where I am move in line with that pillar on the bosses right. (one-two tiles down from the fire animation on that picture)
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  2. #32
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    Elak Klyvyxa
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    IMHO it really doesn't matter where you place him, if you step into his rear-area the tailswipe will trigger. Just step out and wait for 1 second and then move back in.

    It is however easier for people who can't think on their feet to have him butt against the wall.
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  3. #33
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    Gridania
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    Doctor Witch
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 86
    For the folks saying "I do this all the time, tank anywhere, this is easy": If you've got a model that works for you and your friends, and you're having fun, keep at it. This post wasn't written with you in mind.

    I'm a healer, and I try to teach folks. I stick it out with parties that are new or parties that are under-geared; my gear and some light instruction can help compensate for that. I just figure there's no good reason to keep sticking the dragon's rear out where new-ish players are likely to eat Concussion effects. The tail swipe is something any tank can fix. It doesn't cost any time, reduces risk, and seems like a no-brainer.

    Thanks for all the constructive replies!


    Note: I really like the "point his butt at northeast corner 4" approach. My FC's PLD uses a similar location. The 'optimal' graphic I linked was the first one I found that illustrated a better facing. (I was posting from work, and my msPaint skills are notoriously bad.)
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  4. #34
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by valho View Post
    Yeah right, and when the DPS runs to the add, they get hit by the tail aoe considering how long the range for the aoe is.
    This happens precisely never. What difference does it make whether you have to wait for the gargoyle to come to you or not? If you're just DPSing the boss while you wait, it's the exact same.
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  5. #35
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    Nala Valsharess
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    This happens precisely never. What difference does it make whether you have to wait for the gargoyle to come to you or not? If you're just DPSing the boss while you wait, it's the exact same.
    I could ask you the same, why not just spin him so his tail is in the wall? Why cut off an entire section of the room because "I like it this way".
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  6. #36
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valsh View Post
    I could ask you the same, why not just spin him so his tail is in the wall? Why cut off an entire section of the room because "I like it this way".
    Because "I like it this way" is a perfectly valid reason not to change something when nobody can provide an actual benefit to changing it.

    As the OP stated,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgeburner View Post
    If you've got a model that works for you and your friends, and you're having fun, keep at it. This post wasn't written with you in mind.
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    Last edited by Raikki; 09-28-2013 at 01:27 AM.

  7. #37
    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 52
    The problem is tanking him tail against the wall is that targeting can be skewed for ranged DPS as well as the adds potentially targeting the Tank.
    I prefer the tank holds him tail to the middle, on the far side of the right pillar. this allows for melee DPS to continue DPSing during catastrophe cast. Seriously, if you are being hit by tail swipes, you are out of position, no matter what class you are playing. If the tank stands in the center of the wall at right side pillar he doesnt have to move for catastrophe, he wont be hit by adds, and the tail swipe will be irrelevant for anyone who isn't running around the middle of the area like a fool.
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  8. #38
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Saerie View Post


    This is how me and my FC does it, I assume this is also the same as the very awesome paint example above there, lol.

    No one ever needs to move from this spot, except when you get the purple line
    I tank it there, the ranged DPS complain. I tank it to the left of the statue instead of the right, the melee DPS complain. Lots of complaining for a simple fight.
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  9. #39
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    Tirion Crey
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgeburner View Post
    I've been through too many Duty Finder parties lately with tanks who feel the only way to hold Anantaboga is with his ass aimed at the middle of the room. I've tried teaching a better way to people and am tired of hearing "that's the way I've always done it". That's a no-improvement attitude.

    For reference:

    This position is bad.
    This position is worse.

    For contrast:

    This position is optimal.

    Thanks for reading. May your AK queues improve.
    The position you refer to as "worse" is one of the most common positions lol.

    Your so called best position is not the best btw. I don't have any screenshot available right now but yeah...the best position is not that.

    edit: Just saw it. Yeah the screenshot Saeri posted is the best position for him.
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  10. #40
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    Rie Akasuki
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I tank it there, the ranged DPS complain. I tank it to the left of the statue instead of the right, the melee DPS complain. Lots of complaining for a simple fight.
    That is weird, I am a ranged DPS and I never had any problems with that spot They are probably doing something wrong lol.
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