Couple interesting SMN videos

[Maku]

I cast Miasma II only when Contagionis off CD. Other than that I do indeed avoid it. Am I casting Ruin/RuinII, rarely. Rune II mainly for the Blind if I notice someone else isn't constantly spamming it making the DR kick in and making it useless. The thing I love about SMN is the ability to help out the healer a bit. Is it needed? Sometimes no, sometimes yes. But does making things a bit easier ever a bad thing?

[Crescent_Dusk]

Going into melee for a Miasma II with contagion seems too much trouble to be worth it imo. It's a marginal gain and the repositioning requirement it may cuase down the line may cost you what little you gained.

I mostly just use Miasma II for the aoe snare.

[MartaDemireux]

In any end game boss fight, MiasmaII is negligible as you wont be running close to any boss ever else risk getting cleave. But i do agree contagion is the main reason why every SMN should use Garuda in a boss fight.

Not true. Ifrit you need to stack, parts of Garuda you have safety in getting nearby, Titan also relatively safe to run near enough to hit him with it, puddings easy to do, Tonberry King easy to do, as its instant you can use it when sucked in by goobbue while running out, Demon Wall/Bees you're nearby to do it, dragon you're nearby to do it, Psycheflayer/golems you're nearby to do it, etc.

[Kevee]

Going into melee for a Miasma II with contagion seems too much trouble to be worth it imo. It's a marginal gain and the repositioning requirement it may cuase down the line may cost you what little you gained.

I mostly just use Miasma II for the aoe snare.

There's no reason to not be in melee for pretty much every encounter ever.

[glim]

My point is, you would not want to risk going too close to any boss due to unforeseen circumstances.

Furthermore, i am usually busy with my rotation, i do not see any opening to cast miasmaII.

it just needs a bit of getting used to, now I always find an opening to get in melee range to miasma 2 -> contagion without any dps downtime, it really just does need a little of getting used to, before I don't even use thunder but I had to get used to it and it's no longer a problem tracking it.

EDIT: just to mention, whenever in melee range and you are right clicked at the boss, you let out a free weapon auto attack when casting instant cast spells like miasma II or bio or even ruin II, the free damage is around 65+.

[Arcana]

Just go to a dummy and parse your dmg rotation using thunder for 2 min. Then parse it again without using thunder in your rotation.


You will get your answer.

I cast Miasma II only when Contagionis off CD. Other than that I do indeed avoid it. Am I casting Rune/RuneII, rarely.

WTF is rune?

[Burstwolf]

In any end game boss fight, MiasmaII is negligible as you wont be running close to any boss ever else risk getting cleave.

Why not use miasma 2 its a instant dot aoe.yes you will not use it on every boss but adds yes.some tanks like you to be close. Sometimes you will get close by accident to the boss.

[Hoffburger]

Sure using Miasma II with contagion is a "marginal" DPS increase. So is using Raging Strikes, so is Enkindle. When you are doing Coil, you don't have the luxury of being lazy with DPS. If you aren't trying your hardest then you aren't being an effective member of the raid and need to be removed. Squeezing Miasma II into your rotation before contagion is a joke to do. If you think that it is hard to add Miasma II to your rotation, then you need to stay the f*#% away from Dragoon and Monk, possibly needing to reroll Bard. I'm sorry if I offend you, but the truth is if you aren't doing everything you can to do the most damage, then you are simply a burden to your raid.

[Crescent_Dusk]

There's no reason to not be in melee for pretty much every encounter ever.

I don't want to have to move out of Caduceus's tail whip, or have to be careful about not getting cleaved if when they split the tanks don't pick them up properly. That's just an example where a marginal gain from Miasma II doesn't justify bothering to run to melee range.

Sure using Miasma II with contagion is a "marginal" DPS increase. So is using Raging Strikes, so is Enkindle. When you are doing Coil, you don't have the luxury of being lazy with DPS. If you aren't trying your hardest then you aren't being an effective member of the raid and need to be removed. Squeezing Miasma II into your rotation before contagion is a joke to do. If you think that it is hard to add Miasma II to your rotation, then you need to stay the f*#% away from Dragoon and Monk, possibly needing to reroll Bard. I'm sorry if I offend you, but the truth is if you aren't doing everything you can to do the most damage, then you are simply a burden to your raid.

You must not play a monk if you would even compare them to this scenario. Not a single choice they make in rotation is a marginal benefit that can be offset by any drawbacks. I sure as hell hope to see you with the optimal foods and using your intelligence boost pots aligned with cooldowns at the right phases or I suggest you be cast off the cliff as a burden to your raid.

[Kevee]

I don't want to have to move out of Caduceus's tail whip

So stand on the side or just move in on an instant cast, and out after you cast Miasma II.

Melee can do it.

So can you.