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  1. #371
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    Soraan Lutece
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    Sorry, wrong thread. Mean to post in the loot one.
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    Last edited by naaros; 09-27-2013 at 12:53 PM.

  2. #372
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    Xilra Sis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    The timer on the first Fireball is totally random, and sometimes throws it off for the rest of the encounter.
    She had four stacks, Fireball was coming out on one healer, and the other healer was targeted with Conflag shortly after, so that the Fireball and Conflag hit at roughly the same time.
    Why does the timing matter? I guess I don't understand the problem. Are you trying to rely on running fireballs into conflag to survive? If so, you should probably look at other options for dealing with fireball/conflag.
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  3. #373
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    Aiushtha Kyis
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    Quote Originally Posted by naaros View Post
    What do the body pieces look like from here? Are there any screenshots floating around? (or do those come from Turn 5?) It's hard to tell from the small icons on xivdb.com.
    Here is the healer chestpiece and helm (helm is the small tiara): http://i.imgur.com/moPbAAr.jpg
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    Aiushtha Kyis

  4. #374
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Why does the timing matter? I guess I don't understand the problem. Are you trying to rely on running fireballs into conflag to survive? If so, you should probably look at other options for dealing with fireball/conflag.
    You have to run some Fireballs into Conflag. If we soak the first two Fireballs in a row, she'll end up with full stacks of Waxing Flesh, resulting in the second conflag having 10 seconds before it explodes, which is impossible to DPS down unless you're limit breaking or maybe have something with stupidly high burst, like double BLM.
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    You have to run some Fireballs into Conflag. If we soak the first two Fireballs in a row, she'll end up with full stacks of Waxing Flesh, resulting in the second conflag having 10 seconds before it explodes, which is impossible to DPS down unless you're limit breaking or maybe have something with stupidly high burst, like double BLM.
    No, you don't.

    You should re-examine how waxen flesh works in conjunction with the timer on fireball and conflag duration.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    No, you don't.

    You should re-examine how waxen flesh works in conjunction with the timer on fireball and conflag duration.
    So do you want to explain why we were getting 2 Fireballs between the first and second Conflag?
    We spent 2 hours figuring out why the second Conflag was exploding at 10 seconds in 90% of attempts. It was because the second Fireball was coming while she still had stacks of Waxen Flesh. The result being that the stacks compounded on each other.
    I'm not sure what you're doing, but if another Fireball is cast while Waxen Flesh is still on her, there's no way to survive unless you either sacrifice the next Conflag target or run one of the two Fireballs into an existing conflag.

    We changed it around so every second Fireball is put into the Conflag, and we consistently survived, except for when something like both healers getting targeted at the same time happening.


    Again, this is all caused by the fact that the first Fireball's timer after phase change is unpredictable. It's always cast at the same period after the first one, though.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 09-27-2013 at 01:08 PM.

  7. #377
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    Gig Farron
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    So does anyone have any good logic behind twintania mechanics? We just started smashing our head on that wall tonight and alot of it is just confusing.

    The triangle fire ball, is there anyway to avoid this? Also the boss drops a tiny little void zone under herself, does that have any significance to the fight at all?
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  8. #378
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    Elvine Gilmaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigarit View Post
    So does anyone have any good logic behind twintania mechanics? We just started smashing our head on that wall tonight and alot of it is just confusing.

    The triangle fire ball, is there anyway to avoid this? Also the boss drops a tiny little void zone under herself, does that have any significance to the fight at all?
    Honestly, since this boss has not been killed legitimately. Don't expect a lot of hand holding through the encounter.

    Take a few attempts and see what each ability does.
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  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    Snip.
    Just kill the conflag like normal and eat the fireball stacks?

    The waxen flesh is always still on when fireball casts... it drops right before it impacts.

    We have never, ever had issues with it since we have used our modified strategy. Only one person ever in conflag, no issues killing it, and no issues soaking fireball.
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    Alise Reinhart
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    Could anyone give me suggestion for healer position during the Sneak boss?

    Our PT seem to have issue after they split up.
    we do :
    1 healer -> 1 tank, 1 bard, 1 DPS (x2 small group).

    As a healer myself, I need to spam cure II at full speed in order to keep tank alive. But then the bard, and DPS need some heal too (due to random poison), and I also need to Esuna the bard when they get hit by "Heavy" when they are trying to pull the puddin to boss. (If I don't cast Esuna on them in time, they will die from boss AoE). So everytime, when I need to spare my time to regen (either DPS or bard) + Esuna the bard, the tank just died quickly. What should I do? or the PT need to change anything?
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