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    Does anyone hope SE explains what they were thinking with Turn 5?

    I'm really not enjoying having one healer get put in Conflag and the other healer get Fireball at the same time. It feels like an RNGfest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    Does anyone hope SE explains what they were thinking with Turn 5?

    I'm really not enjoying having one healer get put in Conflag and the other healer get Fireball at the same time. It feels like an RNGfest.
    Are you still trying to dump fireballs that come after conflags into the conflag? If so, yes, it could very well feel that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Are you still trying to dump fireballs that come after conflags into the conflag? If so, yes, it could very well feel that way.
    The timer on the first Fireball is totally random, and sometimes throws it off for the rest of the encounter.
    She had four stacks, Fireball was coming out on one healer, and the other healer was targeted with Conflag shortly after, so that the Fireball and Conflag hit at roughly the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    The timer on the first Fireball is totally random, and sometimes throws it off for the rest of the encounter.
    She had four stacks, Fireball was coming out on one healer, and the other healer was targeted with Conflag shortly after, so that the Fireball and Conflag hit at roughly the same time.
    Why does the timing matter? I guess I don't understand the problem. Are you trying to rely on running fireballs into conflag to survive? If so, you should probably look at other options for dealing with fireball/conflag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Why does the timing matter? I guess I don't understand the problem. Are you trying to rely on running fireballs into conflag to survive? If so, you should probably look at other options for dealing with fireball/conflag.
    You have to run some Fireballs into Conflag. If we soak the first two Fireballs in a row, she'll end up with full stacks of Waxing Flesh, resulting in the second conflag having 10 seconds before it explodes, which is impossible to DPS down unless you're limit breaking or maybe have something with stupidly high burst, like double BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    You have to run some Fireballs into Conflag. If we soak the first two Fireballs in a row, she'll end up with full stacks of Waxing Flesh, resulting in the second conflag having 10 seconds before it explodes, which is impossible to DPS down unless you're limit breaking or maybe have something with stupidly high burst, like double BLM.
    No, you don't.

    You should re-examine how waxen flesh works in conjunction with the timer on fireball and conflag duration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    No, you don't.

    You should re-examine how waxen flesh works in conjunction with the timer on fireball and conflag duration.
    So do you want to explain why we were getting 2 Fireballs between the first and second Conflag?
    We spent 2 hours figuring out why the second Conflag was exploding at 10 seconds in 90% of attempts. It was because the second Fireball was coming while she still had stacks of Waxen Flesh. The result being that the stacks compounded on each other.
    I'm not sure what you're doing, but if another Fireball is cast while Waxen Flesh is still on her, there's no way to survive unless you either sacrifice the next Conflag target or run one of the two Fireballs into an existing conflag.

    We changed it around so every second Fireball is put into the Conflag, and we consistently survived, except for when something like both healers getting targeted at the same time happening.


    Again, this is all caused by the fact that the first Fireball's timer after phase change is unpredictable. It's always cast at the same period after the first one, though.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 09-27-2013 at 01:08 PM.

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