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  1. #561
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    Hola Roxanne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Conversely I think it's strange that Convalescence is a GLD ability. Think about it, WAR/MRD are the ones that are supposed to require more healing, but the "mitigation tank" (GLD/PLD) is the one that gets the best version of the bonus heals ability?
    lol

    check this out

    Enhanced Convalesence
    Improves the HP recovery increase granted by Convalesence to 30%.
    Enhanced Foresight
    Shortens Foresight recast time to 90 seconds.
    warrior get a gimped version of convalesence
    while paladin's foresight function exact the same as warrior's just with a longer CD.
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  2. #562
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    Ein Ara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhun View Post
    I'm sorry, you seem to be ignoring something incredibly important here.

    Bravura
    Strength +27
    Vitality +30
    Parry +33
    Skill Speed +23

    Curtana:
    Strength +19
    Vitality +21
    Parry +16
    Accuracy +23

    I should have been more clear. Yes, our DPS is close, with war winning just a little. However, our damage per swing is worlds ahead of pld - Coupled with our already huge base STR, our gear STR, and our crit rate, it's no contest.
    I didn't forget anything, you have: While WARs only get a weapon and nothing in the offhand slot, PLDs get a weapon + shield. You will find the missing stats on their shield.

    http://xivdb.com/?item/2306/Holy-Shield
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  3. #563
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    Lhun's Avatar
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    Samuel Bellamy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    I would read through this thread, but I'm a bit low on time. One question I have to ask is, as a WAR would the DL rings of Maiming be better off than Fending? Instead on focusing on crit, wouldn't a build of 20 STR/10 Vit, which str+skillspeed gear be more beneficial?

    I want to try this out personally, since I feel that we have decent amounts of HP regardless, so being able to hit more often would stack out wrath stacks up so much more, no?
    I believe you're onto something.
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  4. #564
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    Quote Originally Posted by hola View Post
    lol

    check this out



    warrior get a gimped version of convalesence
    while paladin's foresight function exact the same as warrior's just with a longer CD.
    Um, Convalesence + wrath + MANTRA. HElllooooo...
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  5. #565
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic View Post
    I didn't forget anything, you have: While WARs only get a weapon and nothing in the offhand slot, PLDs get a weapon + shield. You will find the missing stats on their shield.

    http://xivdb.com/?item/2306/Holy-Shield
    Which still puts the str woefully behind warrior.
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  6. 09-27-2013 07:42 AM

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  7. #566
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    derp herp derp cookiecutter loving players hiveminding and not even parsing parry and str
    have fun being bad at the game, "Buff warrior!!" saber rattlers. you're obviously not going to figure out what YoshiP and his devs are saying this way. Thanks for reminding me why I kept my mouth shut on this forum for three years.
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  8. #567
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    Delcas Seven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    Sadly, if foresight was made a decent skill it would just instantly make PLD even better. It would enable them to basically have a very long rotation of defensive cooldowns if used in succession (90-130 seconds), or to indefinitely use a big cooldown every time a boss used a big skill such as mountain buster.
    Well thats what traits are for. They could cut the CD from 120 to 60, or 40, or 30 instead of 90 for instance if they wanted to and only WAR would get that benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Conversely I think it's strange that Convalescence is a GLD ability. Think about it, WAR/MRD are the ones that are supposed to require more healing, but the "mitigation tank" (GLD/PLD) is the one that gets the best version of the bonus heals ability?
    I was thinking this too but then on the same note PUG has Mantra which WAR can take. Between Convalescence and Mantra WAR isn't left out of the dust on this.
    Yoshi did say you gotta sub-class the WAR didn't he?
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    Last edited by Hundred; 09-27-2013 at 07:52 AM.

  9. #568
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    Javid Conlak
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    As a dedicated WAR (short on RL time); I prize skill speed over critical any and every day. Yes Critical generates more enmity; more absorbs; more POP; but it's a rate-sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. However you reduce the time you take to land a hit that will automatically increase overall dmg over time; speed up vital rotations.

    My current Skill Speed with Eft steak HQ is 2.39; saves almost a second off 5 Wrath build. Hoping one day to get that baby down to a 2.2!!!

    Image: 17.6 5 Wrath build.

    "Warrior class is for those that want to show off" - Yoshi P.


    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/95010-WARRIOR-Tips-Tricks
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    Last edited by javid; 09-27-2013 at 07:52 AM.

  10. #569
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    Raiz Cineris
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    Not sure I understand the players here. Developer states that there is nothing wrong with War.. Yet people come to the forums claiming its irrelevant in all end game.

    Have you considered that the issue is you and not the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhun View Post
    have fun being bad at the game, "Buff warrior!!" saber rattlers. you're obviously not going to figure out what YoshiP and his devs are saying this way. Thanks for reminding me why I kept my mouth shut on this forum for three years.
    says the warrior in af with Barbarian's Bardiche and lv 28 ring

    you dont even have a single piece of AK gear
    you have only 4200 HP

    and ya, your lv28 ring is a HQ, ill give your credit on that.
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