Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[Pellegri]

So guess the question now is even if they did use an exploit what was the loot at the end? was it just weapons or was there actually armor too? Does the quest reward anything once you complete it?

Guess the thing now is to see how square responds to this, might actually say that the fight isn't tuned correctly and do something about it or will do nothing more than fix the bug and be done with it.

[echogame]

So guess the question now is even if they did use an exploit what was the loot at the end? was it just weapons or was there actually armor too? Does the quest reward anything once you complete it?

They got a weapon and a wrist piece.

[Paks]

Does SE even have the tools to do individual account rollbacks?

It would have been easier if they didn't clear the boss using the bug rather than requesting a rollback after the deed has been done.

[Xell]

Does SE even have the tools to do individual account rollbacks?

It would have been easier if they didn't clear the boss using the bug rather than requesting a rollback after the deed has been done.

I say if they were clever enough to find the bug and nice enough to report it in the manner they did, they deserve the spoils (sans the gear). Unless the quest chains off into a new area with amazing stuff or something.

[Eggowaffles]

I say if they were clever enough to find the bug and nice enough to report it in the manner they did, they deserve the spoils (sans the gear). Unless the quest chains off into a new area with amazing stuff or something.

No, no they don't. If they hadn't opened a ticket and tried to keep it hush, SE would know and just out right ban them and fix the bug. SE knows when a boss that has never been killed dies. They should have taken the smart route and just wiped and then opened a ticket.

They deserve nothing but a mild pat on the back for reporting a bug and a slap to the face for exploiting it.

[cherrios489]

It has been clearly stated by SE that in the event a player/group encounters an enemy that is rendered immobile that they reset the encounter and not attempt to finish it. These guys clearly knew what they were doing and decided to take advantage of this bug. This is something that is in violation of the user agreement. They do not deserve the spoils, but instead harsh punishment for taking advantage of this bug.

https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...quest_a_relic/

Link that has the info from SE.

[Req]

I like how upset people are getting over this. Do other MMOs have such a stick in the mud community that want to start a witch hunt every time a bug causes an unintended outcome in a fight? In before the inevitable war between free companies on who beat this fight "legit" first like with Moogle and Garuda. At least this free company has the decency to not spread the method across servers like with just about every exploit that happened in 1.0, and it is pretty damn obvious they don't intend on exploiting it any farther considering they both submitted a ticket detailing the bug and asked for a character roll back. Any sort of punishment on SE's part for these people would be foolish. I could see the headlines on Kotaku now.

"After a month of connection errors, and a launch riddled with problems causing an inability to play, Square Enix bans the first people to beat their hardest dungeon because they failed to properly test the fight."

I am sure that will go over with any potential buyers about as well as the fact they suspended digital sales for weeks and locked character creation on most servers.

[SolRising]

I completely agree. They only reported it in hopes to save their own hide. If they really wanted a rollback they would have just wiped and reset the boss and reported it. They had from 80%-0% hp to figure out the boss isn\\'t attacking anymore and all of them decided to exploit the bug and hoped to keep the gear drops if they reported it and "not claim first kill" gimme a break. If you don\\'t want first kill you would have stopped attacking. I think they still all deserve to get banned. They realized se would still figure out they managed to kill the boss through battle logs and submitted the bug only after they killed him. Really ??

[Raiz_Cineris]

It has been clearly stated by SE that in the event a player/group encounters an enemy that is rendered immobile that they reset the encounter and not attempt to finish it. These guys clearly knew what they were doing and decided to take advantage of this bug. This is something that is in violation of the user agreement. They do not deserve the spoils, but instead harsh punishment for taking advantage of this bug.

https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...quest_a_relic/

You really need to grow up. This is pretty sad you choose to doom players from a game due to an unintended bug. Why act like the FFXIV police when this issue has NOTHING to do with you?

[Medieval]

It has been clearly stated by SE that in the event a player/group encounters an enemy that is rendered immobile that they reset the encounter and not attempt to finish it. These guys clearly knew what they were doing and decided to take advantage of this bug. This is something that is in violation of the user agreement. They do not deserve the spoils, but instead harsh punishment for taking advantage of this bug.

https://pay.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...quest_a_relic/

Link that has the info from SE.

They don't deserve the loot, but to decide they deserve "harsh punishment". man you're some sick sadist.