SUMMONER, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE OR ADD? (EVOLUTION & STAT ALLOCATION)

[MysteriousRonin]

I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

[shinros]

@Seeker too.

Arcanist is supposed to use Arcane magic, which is a dark type of magic.

"Arcane Magick (裏魔法, Ura Mahō?, lit. "Nether Magic") is a type of magick that deals with direct damage or negative Status Effectes that distort the judgment of either ally or foe. They have been classified in previous Final Fantasy titles as Black Magic, and in Final Fantasy X-2 as the main set of abilities for the Dark Knight, though only labeled as Arcana."

Carbuncle in nearly every FF game uses White Magic and in a few is considered the avatar of Light or the avatar of Holy, but its spells have been WHM based since the beginning making it Light based even back then. It's not just RW either.


Like I said before, I don't think Yoshida or his team know much about the Final Fantasy series because they got so much wrong.

For each final fantasy game the lore is different so you cannot say that it only concerns like 1-3 games. Here arcanist is not using dark magic seeker explained how it worked in terms of THIS game lore. In FFXIV black mage is the dark magic class since our powers are linked to the void. Oh yeah read it clearly IN all previous final fantasies it is classified as BLACK magic and I looked at the wiki page you got that from.


Nothing you say will change it because in this games lore they are not practicing the dark arts. Black mages are practicing the dark arts.

Oh yeah and thanks to dissidia saying all the worlds are connected to the void guess what this means for black magic? That means they are the dark magic class of the FF series.

[MysteriousRonin]

I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

[seekerofpower]

There are things that carry over through the Final Fantasy games. Yoshida and his people don't know much about the series so they screwed a lot of these kinds of things up and now those of you who are not very knowledgeable on the series think his screw ups from ignorance make it canon. If anything this game is the equivalent of badly thought out fan fiction with a good overall story.

"Join Date: Aug 2013"
Ah, that would explain it.

You need to re-read my post. I point out that Carbuncle was only an avatar of light in 1 game, and it wasn't even a main numbered title. FFXII: Revanant Wings is the ONLY FF GAME WHERE CARBUNCLE IS RELATED TO THE LIGHT ELEMENT. She is normally a NON-ELEMENTAL summon. Once again, you are wrong. Also, in THIS GAME, Arcanist has nothing to do with dark magic.

Also, there is only 1 other FF game where the Arcanist class/job is present, and that is FFTA2. In that game they get Syphon and Drain (which we have combined into 1 spell), Shadow Flare (which we have), Haste (which Scholars get through Spell and Skill speed increases), Death, Dark and Gravity Magic. So they get 2 dark magic spells (Dark and Shadow Flare). Of those 2, we get 1 of the spells. Very similar to what we are now.

Wait, I just saw your post up there. You are using FFX-2 as a reference. That game is so widely disregarded by the fan base, it should NEVER be used to prove a point. If you wanted to use that as an example though, look through the abilities list for Aracana. It is mostly status inducing and non-elemental damage abilities. They do get Darkness, but that is a traditional Dark Knight ability, more than a Black Magic ability.

If we are discussing Arcane Magick, I find it funny you leave out its presence in FFT, where Ultima (who has always been considered non-elemental) uses it. It is not related to dark magic in that game either. In the international version of XII, Arcane Magic was basically a mix of Time and Status Effect magic.

If you want to take definitions of words to determine what classes should do, Conjurer shouldn't use healing magic either. Conjury has nothing to do with healing. It is the magic associated with creating something out of nothing.

Hell, Thuamaturgy is actually the art of working miracles, or healing. The Judaic Saints are called Thaumaturgists.

Also, I guarantee you I know more about the FF series than you do. I have beat every game in the series 100% at least 6 times. Tactics, VI, IV, V and VIII I've beat 20+ times. I always do everything available in all the games, including maxing out my characters. In Tactics, I had all named characters maxed on all jobs. In FFX, I completely maxed out every characters sphere grids. In IX I was King of Jump Rope and obtained "Would you like to discard this card" rank in Tetra Master. In VII got Aerith's final limit break before she died the first time I played. In VIII, I beat Omega Weapon with The End (basically killed him in 1 hit). I've beat Xenogears 100+ times (I think it should count since this was the original script for FFVII, but they thought it was too dark for a FF game and was made its own thing).

Before Square lost 90% of the staff that made the company amazing, they were my favorite game company. They are finally getting back to what made the series great with this game. FFXIV:ARR is the closest thing Square has released to a real FF game in years. You sir, are wrong.

Also, what does join date have to do with anything? It just means I didn't play Version 1.

[Yukiko]

I have thought very long how to add a Moogle Egi and i found a solution to it:

In previous FF we have learned that Moogle always look the same! We see some using Weapons and Armor, but in fact they still look all the same...
How we can add them then as Egi? It will look like a pet or not even as a moogle...
When I thought about killing Moogle King, i could not resist to think about "Ghosts" and "Spirits"...
When I realised that Egi are looking krystal like and shining, the Moogle Egi was born!

What if we can have a fighting Moogle Ghost half visible... doesnt it fit great not only in design, but also in lore?

[Nahara]

I point out that Carbuncle was only an avatar of light in 1 game, and it wasn't even a main numbered title. FFXII: Revanant Wings is the ONLY FF GAME WHERE CARBUNCLE IS RELATED TO THE LIGHT ELEMENT. She is normally a NON-ELEMENTAL summon. Once again, you are wrong.

Two games: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Carbuncle

Searing Light, Meteorite, and Holy Mist all do Light elemental damage.

[seekerofpower]

Two games: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Carbuncle

Searing Light, Meteorite, and Holy Mist all do Light elemental damage.

Ah, so when they said EVERY FF GAME, what they really meant was FFXI? That makes it better...