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  1. #51
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    Sebastianaru's Avatar
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    Sebastian Aru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Jacina et all - Scholars can actually stack 6 dots at once with cross class (Lighning I and Aero) and their AoE dot (people forget this for some reason? probably because it has a melee range... but I just run into melee to keep it up).
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    Brody Algana
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    There are similar arguments in relation to paladin/warrior on thier forum. Maybe its caused by "the grass is always greener..." I don't know. I like playing WHM so I play WHM. I am going to try scholar as well, just to try it. But I will always be WHM - because it is what I like to do. If you don't like what you do, or things about your class, very easy to change classes in this game without starting a whole new toon.
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  3. #53
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    Mayumi Shiro
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Argue the numbers all you like. A good SCH and a good WHM together will own that battlefield. That aside, if you must have a reason why one could be better than the other..it's easy.

    WHM look awesome and iconic in their AF gear.

    SCH Look like a harry potter cosplay gone wrong.
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  4. #54
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    Lord Ghondon
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    Your math is a bit off, and you have an extra digit in there.

    4 x 700 = 2800

    .1 x 2800 = 280

    2800 - 280 = 2520
    you forgot that there is 8 party members taking that stomp. So its 4stomps at 700 damage a stomp equaling 2800 per person. there are 8 people so 8 times 2800 = 22400.
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  5. #55
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by ghondon View Post
    you forgot that there is 8 party members taking that stomp. So its 4stomps at 700 damage a stomp equaling 2800 per person. there are 8 people so 8 times 2800 = 22400.
    When you said per person in your post, I figure you ment the damage per person.

    Either way, sacred soil is worth a bit more than a single tick of medica ii on everyone in that example.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 09-27-2013 at 03:03 AM.

  6. #56
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    Lord Ghondon
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    When you said per person in your post, I figure you ment the damage per person.

    Either way, sacred soil is worth a bit more than a single tick of medica ii on everyone in that example.
    Sacred Soil is static during this to, so they are getting all this healing plus pumping out Succor with more shields. They out heal a WHM during the stomps/leaps/ultimate. I really think both have their place and are on pretty even footing. In coil a SCH/WHM combo is invaluable.
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    Last edited by ghondon; 09-27-2013 at 04:24 AM.

  7. #57
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    Astrid Merle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghondon View Post
    Sacred Soil is static during this to, so they are getting all this healing plus pumping out Succor with more shields. They out heal a WHM during the stomps/leaps/ultimate. I really think both have their place and are on pretty even footing. In coil a SCH/WHM combo is invaluable.
    Sacred soil is static, I know, but we're not at the point of an 8 person group suffering so much more than 3k damage per person in AOE damage within 15 seconds, so we're not going to see sacred soil absorbing much more than ~300 damage per person if that, unless the tank(s) is getting his arse kicked in the bubble too.

    It's nice, but not that powerful.
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  8. #58
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    Ezayla Tovarisch
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50

    For the damage argument:

    Last night our FC had me(SCH) and another healer(WHM) who needed AK for relic so we figured what the hell and ran it as WHM,SCH,BRD,WAR. I went cleric stance for 90% of the time and parsed it. I out damaged the bard on trash pulls(due to bane) and matched his damage on bosses. We had no problems with the wall or the final boss even without a STR LB. In any emergency I was able to shift out and heal.

    As far as gear goes. I am wearing only 4 AK and one piece of DL with a Garuda weapon. The bard has FULL DL and an Ifrit weapon. and before the flood of "bad bard"... if thats the case how did we meet the DPS timers?

    I'm not gonna post a parser SS. You can believe me or not. Frankly, I don't give a shit. It's probably better if you don't because theres no way a healer should be able to deal that much damage and I would rather not have it nerfed before PVP comes out and SCH face rolls every WHM. WHM's can go on thinking they can deal as much damage as SCH but they are wrong.
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    XIVAPP does not correctly parse DOT damage; this is pretty well known and acknowledged. SMN (and thus SCH) damage is substantially overstated; I have had a below average SMN parse at 334 DPS on Titan over the course of a fight. That is an impossible figure.
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  10. #60
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    Ezayla Tovarisch
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    The fact remains that we met(and greatly exceeded) the dps timers without a problem.
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