To players afraid of being new.

[Waterdeep]

For the most part there are two kinds of players when it comes to newbies:

The first, and much rarer kind, is the one that takes their time, explain stuff and even if you wipe gets back up and fights again.

The second kind is the elitist mindset that just leaves the Duty, sometimes even just after checking peoples equip. Sadly, every day there seem to be more and more of those people. In that regard the FFXIV community is much worse than the WoW one, much to my suprise. In WoW you wipe and try again. In FFXIV you wipe and someone leaves.

[Leowilde]

OP: Proud to have you on my server. If more people could display this attitude, less people would be nervous about entering dungeons and raids (especially the ones doing it for the story).

[neizero]

Why do you rely on other players to tell you what to do? You can't use the internet? (Apparently you can when it comes to whining about "lag") An what if you are all new?

Honestly if someone doesnt wish to spend THEIR personal leisure time in teaching the run to a random stranger, how is that any "worse" than the person who shows up with zero preparation expecting to be spoon fed?

Personally, if someone says they are new, normally i will stay and give it a try until they prove they are hopeless, like cant dodge anything at all type player, at which point I have better things to do with my time.

[16bitBounty]

As I healer I have no problem telling someone I'm new. They're the ones that have to sit for 3 hours waiting for a group to queue.

[MRcrow]

I wish there was some kind of grief report that you could use and somebody could just look at the chat log history and see that this user made the experience hard on you and and take some action to that character. But that kind of control is probably impossible, especially since i doubt any kind of administrator or GM can just look up a discussion log for a dungeon.

I think i'm going to have to be a lvl 50 healer or tank because there are so few and so many of them are just not kind enough to players.

[Leowilde]

Honestly if someone doesnt wish to spend THEIR personal leisure time in teaching the run to a random stranger, how is that any "worse" than the person who shows up with zero preparation expecting to be spoon fed?

It's not like the new people and those supporting them are the only ones entitled to play their way. The difference is that the players who harass new players can make them feel genuinly bad and create a bad experience for them. A new person slowing down the party doesn't have that effect, unless it's a jerk - in which case it has nothing to do with the player being new. And some are calling people delicate and fragile for reacting like that to harassment; well that's how different people are.

[EQBallzz]

Why do you rely on other players to tell you what to do? You can't use the internet? (Apparently you can when it comes to whining about "lag") An what if you are all new?

Honestly if someone doesnt wish to spend THEIR personal leisure time in teaching the run to a random stranger, how is that any "worse" than the person who shows up with zero preparation expecting to be spoon fed?

Personally, if someone says they are new, normally i will stay and give it a try until they prove they are hopeless, like cant dodge anything at all type player, at which point I have better things to do with my time.

I don't rely on other players to tell me what to do. If I'm new and they have some pertinent information about the encounter I should be aware of then I won't ignore it. If everyone is new or someone can't be bothered to give that info I'll wing it and learn on the fly. If I have prolonged trouble on a fight I might look up some info on the Internet to see if there is anything I'm missing but I don't enjoy doing "homework" before every encounter. That is not fun and semi-ruins the experience of exploring a new dungeon.

This new breed of MMO player that has to wait for others to master content and then study every aspect before even trying it would never have hacked it in older MMOs that required exploration, experimentation and LOTS of trial and error. The figuring out of strategies/encounters was part of the fun.

[SupaCancerion]

OMG my life is so hard. The other day while I was just lazily sitting in my computer chair like I do every day (unlike all those starving kids in Africa), playing Final Fantasy XIV, I had to teach a NEW PERSON how to run this dungeon. WTF. I actually had to type stuff on a keyboard and tell them how to do things, and then we got into an ARGUMENT. JEEZ! What is the world coming to, why is my life so hard? This videogame that lets me run around in a huge virtual fantasy world and slay mythical creatures with other actual folk is just SO HARD to experience, jeez I can't get over it, I'm just gonna quit and go lay in my nice fluffy comfortable bed, curl up in a ball and cry. I HATE MY LIFE