OMG Give us an AOE heal that is not worthless!

[ApolloGenX]

Disc priest DOES have shield, but its shields are extremely strong: an instant cast which adds at least 30% HP on top of player HP, a free shield popped when ANY of its heal crits (which is plenty, unlike this game, and STACKABLE to a certain cap).../snip

I'm tired repeating the same over and over to you :\

I know- I actually pointed out the obvious differences in shield strength. I also pointed out that disc doesn't stack very well. As pointed out earlier, disc is incredibly OP... but even so, generally after the first, if you do bring any priests (which others are better) they go holy. Also, shield spam is incredibly boring... and the SCH is a pet healer, not shield spammer...

[Mythrella]

I know- I actually pointed out the obvious differences in shield strength. I also pointed out that disc doesn't stack very well. As pointed out earlier, disc is incredibly OP... but even so, generally after the first, if you do bring any priests (which others are better) they go holy. Also, shield spam is incredibly boring... and the SCH is a pet healer, not shield spammer...

Disc priest stacking was viable for some time due to spirit shell (not sure about lately). It was generally used as AOE raid shields on a short cooldown. That stacked. Kind of like AOE power word shield but more effective, and with a cast time that you could keep casting for (15?) seconds. It's similar to the effect of a tank using his wall limit break every minute, while stacking it. So, you can see why raw heals weren't needed as much.

PWS became expensive to cast to deter spamming, around the same time shell was introduced. Sounds like it was after you quit, as holy was in a better place years ago, before absorbs basically became mandatory in raids (disc and somewhat paladin). I really hope that no class becomes so imbalanced in this game, including my own ♥

[vainlestat]

A scholar will do more dmg over time. Sure the Holy AOE is great and stuns but that's negated by the fact that even putting all points into piety still only allows you to get this off 5 or 6 times and now you have no mana to heal your group.

[Ephany]

The problem with succor is that even though it shields the group, the group still need healing after a big aoe attack.

WHM can get everyone's health up.
SCH can shield the group but then still have to think about getting everyone's health up quickly because chances are, they're still taking damage and the shields will only last a few seconds as well as having a tank to look after.

I agree with the OP.

[hamsteak]

my main issue is that having two scholars in an 8 man is a hindrance, having 2 white mages isn't

our shields need to stack or something

[Valtear]

I really don't see the problem with Scholar healing, we can shield people and then put a 90% damage reduction bubble up....that's aoe. I think we are pretty damn good

[kronpas]

There is no such thing called 90% dam reduction.

[XNihili]

The problem with succor is that even though it shields the group, the group still need healing after a big aoe attack.

WHM can get everyone's health up.
SCH can shield the group but then still have to think about getting everyone's health up quickly because chances are, they're still taking damage and the shields will only last a few seconds as well as having a tank to look after.

I agree with the OP.

To me it's half the fun (for now) as a SCH.
You have to prioritize who you are going to heal. The tank of course and another DPS (as you can ask your fairy to heal one person while you are healing another).
I just wished that either the recast was faster or my (and my fairy) healing was stronger so I had a chance to heal the last DPS before it's too late.
It's more fun and hectic than BAM big AOE healing everybody is full HP.

[Eccho]

I really don't see the problem with Scholar healing, we can shield people and then put a 90% damage reduction bubble up....that's aoe. I think we are pretty damn good

You read the skill wrong its a 10% reduction not 90%
SCH is a great class but they need some work. Their heals do NOT need buffing they are not a pet wielding white mage. What they need is traits. as a scholar we miss out on 4. 3 X enhanced Intelligence and one very big one "enhanced pet actions" that only grants you a spell speed buff when your pet crits off of a damaging move... which means it does NOTHING for Scholars. I propse we get enhanced crit instead benefiting summoners and scholars and 'enhanced pet actions' trait is edited to effect healing crits.

[ventlus]

I propse we get enhanced crit instead benefiting summoners and scholars and 'enhanced pet actions' trait is edited to effect healing crits.

you gear for crit..... so for alligan pieces some of their dont have crit, where as your af does, so you would want to pick up those pieces, and look at the mytholgy access and see if they have crit or not. And scholars would be op if they could heal for what whm's do with aoes. Their mana sustain is retarded good, they have stoneskins on their heals, their pets a mini whm. I mean i solo healed garuda hm as a scholar back when i was like half darklight and had no problem doing it (no mana songs) see a whm try to do that and they will oom or pull threat. Their 2 different classes, they have their strengths their fine as it is.

just for refrence as i am now in turn 4 coil healer. I want crit > pie/mind > determ atm.