Rebalancing of Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium rewards

[Alexander_9211]

Hi everyone,
I've been talking with my Linkshell friends for a while, and looks like there are actually people that agree with me.

So, I think the rewards of Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium should be rebalanced, so that Praetorium gets more rewarding compared to its "little sister". The point is, Praetorium is much more difficult than Castrum (not really hard on the overhaul, just compared to Castrum); Castrum is just a breeze while Praetorium requires that extra bit of effort, but for the same reward.

I'm not implying you should give a better reward for Praetorium, you could even lower Castrum's reward for what I care (I fear however that a HUGE hoard of people would complain). I'd just love to have a reason for doing Praetorium again, since it was so much fun, and that fight was epic. It's such a waste of a good dungeon that it should go into the trashbin of the "pointless".

What do you guys think? Do you agree? Or maybe you think it's an unneeded change?

[Behb]

Yes I agree with you, Praetorium is more interesting, more difficult to rush (as far as i know) so it should be more rewardable. Moreover it's the final dungeon ...
120 philo instead of 100 can be a good compromise ? ^^

Personnally, I'm sick of castrum because of people mood ... They are always upset to lose 1 minutes because a new guy aggro something...
Praetorium is more linear if I remember well so situation like that will occurs less often (I hope).

[Alexander_9211]

120 or 150, or maybe 100 phyl/20 myth, something like that.

They are always upset to lose 1 minutes because a new guy aggro something...

Yeah I seriously don't know what's wrong with people I find in DF... They want everything and they want it istant. Skip everything that is skippable, quit if you fail on Titan first time... Does it really matter if you close the instance in like 10 minutes less? Most times by skipping mobs you waste even more time because with 8 people it's easy that something goes wrong and you end getting the opposite, you aggro the whole instance on 1 person. I don't really understand this speedrun frenzy lately.

P.s.: Done with this little off-topic Sorry

[BlossomRose]

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Praetorium is EASIER to rush with a premade group. My Linkshell's record is 19 minutes so far, and we do this by skipping the first two floors entirely (run to the teleporters, it drops all aggro when you port, also some of the mobs leash back).

CM and Praetorium are fine where they are at 100.

It's AK, Wanderer's Palace, and the three Primals which need a buff so that they are ROUGHLY competitive. Garuda almost is, the others not so much.

[Alexander_9211]

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Praetorium is EASIER to rush with a premade group. My Linkshell's record is 19 minutes so far, and we do this by skipping the first two floors entirely (run to the teleporters, it drops all aggro when you port, also some of the mobs leash back).
CM and Praetorium are fine where they are at 100.
It's AK, Wanderer's Palace, and the three Primals which need a buff so that they are ROUGHLY competitive. Garuda almost is, the others not so much.

So, imho, the problem is not "We shouldn't make Praetorium more rewarding" but "We should fix Praetorium skipping runs". I find that skipping monsters totally ruins a dungeon. You're doing only the bosses, what's the point of it? Where's the fun? You shouldn't be supposed to skip them anyway. Like it was for Amdapor. If we fix this, Praetorium can get more interesting as a liable source of Tomestones and we can speak of the tomestones amount again.

[ntall1]

Castrum: Lower the amount of philo tombs gained.
Praetorium: Keep the same, maybe add a few myth tombs to the end fight.
AK: Remove all myth tombs from its normal mode. And add them back in the heroic versions once those are released.

I bet SE is kicking themselves for even allowing us to grind Myth tombs via AK Myth tombs get us Ilvl 90 gear. The same ilvl of gear obtained in Coil. Technicaly someone can gear up by farming AK only and be wearing Coil lvl gear. The only restriction being that stupid 300 cap.

[BlossomRose]

Except that by the time you have a full set, at 300 tomes a week, the next tier of content will probably be out. Off the top of my head, you're looking at:

825x2 (chest+legs)
495x3 (head, gloves, boots)
375x5 (ring, ring, earrings, choker, belt)
900 (relic upgrade)

5910 tomestones. 300/week, that's 19.7, so say 20, weeks.

That's five months, six if you miss a couple of weeks, to FULLY EQUIP YOURSELF. Dunno about you but by then new content will probably be out.

On the other hand you could do Coil runs and probably have most of your gear in ~4-6 weeks unless you're REALLY unlucky.

[Senzura]

My FC can complete Preatorium in 23 minutes, Castrum in 29.

Put in the work to learn the dungeon, and you'll realize they both give adequate rewards

[EmSix]

So, imho, the problem is not "We shouldn't make Praetorium more rewarding" but "We should fix Praetorium skipping runs". I find that skipping monsters totally ruins a dungeon. You're doing only the bosses, what's the point of it? Where's the fun? You shouldn't be supposed to skip them anyway. Like it was for Amdapor. If we fix this, Praetorium can get more interesting as a liable source of Tomestones and we can speak of the tomestones amount again.

Are you implying trash mobs are fun? Monsters that provided no challenge and only waste time are definitely not fun.

[CyanDvai]

Put in the work to learn the dungeon, and you'll realize they both give adequate rewards

Here's the problem with that. When people get to these instances to put in "the work" everyone who's been doing it 3-4 times a day for the past 2 weeks don't want to help them learn the instance. Instead they rage at the new players for not knowing the instance.

These people are the worst part of this community.