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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    no i found about the hacking while trying to log. And noticed mt wow accont was hacked after calling them.
    Then you went somewhere click something download something for wow to get hack sorry you don't get hack by doing noting. This is why you should alway have a good anti virus
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    Everyone LOVES more security features
    until it makes them do anything extra

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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Crappy System but what can you expect from SE. Steam/Ebay/Facebook all seem to get around it nicely even if you go to a completely different system/ip. Theres no excuse for this extremely poor design for a security feature.
    >.>. You know how many times (and on a much worse level) that Steam/Ebay and Facebook has been hacked and some leaks? lol. This system is perfectly fine, even without a token, I have 8 POL IDs linked to my SE account (family accounts) and we all play FFXI..at different IPs at the same time.

    No lockouts, no token on this account.

    Soo I'm not sure what's triggering it for other people but the system isn't badly designed, but it is CLEARLY designed to take full advantage of the token.
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    its needed yes its a pain, but just a pain for you rather then for both you and se, it well known that a lot accounts get stolen so its needed, just get damn token people or set your system up with static ip simple fix, you realities that se has to deal with the people that accounts get stolen right this save them time and money hate break to you it not going any were buy token.
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    My point was simple. I'm not spending money on something I don't need. I don't use cutesy passwords with familiar personal info. They're all annoying random and long alphanumeric combinations (sometimes literally made by smashing my hand on the keyboard). I would like the option to turn the security feature off with the explicit warning from SE that they won't help me if my account is hacked. I'm not going to turn crying to them, I know it's a risk, but frankly, that should be mine to take. I don't need SE holding my damn hand all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altano View Post
    My point was simple. I'm not spending money on something I don't need. I don't use cutesy passwords with familiar personal info. They're all annoying random and long alphanumeric combinations (sometimes literally made by smashing my hand on the keyboard). I would like the option to turn the security feature off with the explicit warning from SE that they won't help me if my account is hacked. I'm not going to turn crying to them, I know it's a risk, but frankly, that should be mine to take. I don't need SE holding my damn hand all the way.
    You do know a keylogger can still get a random alphanumeric password, if you just use those, a website has an add on which downloads a keylogger, absolutly anything you type will be seen, this is what the security token prevents.

    The password reset measure is a little extra, which further secures if it looks possible that your account has been compromised.

    All security measures incovineance legit users, and the strongest ones will inconvienance users alot.

    Also Altano if you think just because you use an alphanumeric password your account is safe, you are asking to be hacked from a keylogger.

    Also dont forget if your account is hacked it is not just your char that is compromised, it is every piece of information connected to your account, if SE uses strong security measures then they are not liable for any information stolen.

    To be honest Altano looking at your post you want to be hacked by saying you dont want any security on your account except your password just so you can get in the game faster.
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    Man i got hacked on XI. It was the worst logged in and my PLD was naked NO AEGIS shield the hacker tossed all my items after it looted all the good stuff... after that i was a firm believer in the token
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Delsus
    You do know I know more than a little bit about internet pc security. But thanks for pretending I don't. I said alphanumeric, fine, let me be more clear: yes, also symbols and caps and whatnot.

    It's not a matter of getting in game faster, it's the hassle of having to generate new passwords each time, record those on paper somewhere so I don't have it stored on my computer. Frankly, I can take care of myself, thank you very much. I'm tired of being inconvenienced a lot, as you said, for the sake of security I don't need.

    Again, you don't know me. You don't know how well I take care of myself and my private info. Believe me, I belong in the class of semi-paranoid. And that's a completely different story.

    But this to me is SE cashing in on hackers activities by making it so that you have to pay them extra to keep your account going smoothly. Thanks, but no thanks. I understand it's not going to change, but I have the right to say it is utterly ridiculous that I cannot decline this feature and assume the risk myself without you walking in and assuming that I "want to be hacked."
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Then you went somewhere click something download something for wow to get hack sorry you don't get hack by doing noting. This is why you should alway have a good anti virus
    nope. did you think that their offices might have got hacked I also didn't dl anything on that pc. When i played i go straight on the game. Similar occurrences happen in Aion ppl would take a week off log on and it said account was blocked.
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    @Al you basicly confirmed what the dude said. A key logger reads you key strokes. so Anything you type is recorded and can be used. The tokens are $10 and generate a 1 time number code only good for 40secs. They last a while and prevents the IP switch block. I also gives extra security. Hackers now adays go as far as hack game accounts for ID theft not to take your items.
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