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  1. #11
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjaii View Post
    #1 That was recent, as in should of already been addressed
    #2 It obviously still doesnt do anything. OMG they are using character's other than standard English alpha-numeirc. Why would we filter those, they don't exist?

    You can keep reposting an interview you had to have Reinhart translate for you to be able to read it all you want (which again is a sign of the Company not giving a damn), but the /tell spams are just as persistent and not being alleviated by the /sh filter.
    You can filter many combinations you can think up, the RMT just think up different combinations.
    And beliefe it or not, there is much less RMT spam now than before 2 weeks (at least on Ragnarok)

    For /tell, just type "/blist add <r>" in the chat and report them

    You can keep reposting an interview you had to have Reinhart translate for you to be able to read it all you want (which again is a sign of the Company not giving a damn)
    I have no problem with this. How many english game companies translate an interview in an english magazine in different languages on their forums? Or at least in english?
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    Last edited by Felis; 09-25-2013 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    I have no problem with this. How many english game companies translate an interview in an english magazine in different languages on their forums? Or at least in english?
    No, I commend Reinhart for his translations, I even used to put it in as a Question for a Live Letter that he should be offered a job by SE for his work.
    The problem is that even though this is an issue that complaints have inundated every media outlet the company uses for communication, THAT interview is the only time they have said anything. Which also means if those specific questions hadn't been asked, they never would of said anything at all.
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    Last edited by Ninjaii; 09-25-2013 at 12:45 PM.

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    i only read the first sentence of all your paragraphs.

    first, are you honestly still complaining abour 3102?

    secondly, RMT and hacks are inherent, like crimes in the real world. has se done things in e past to address it? yes, major measures, and i infer that the same will be done here. it is reasonable to expect counter measures, but not so to expect non existence.

    thirdly, exploits are essentially programming bugs. i dont wish to fall back on the same notion of \\'inherent-ness\\' but it is! its a massive algorithm of data, and somewhere is gonna have loopholes. it\\'s like complaining about Rubik\\'s Cube having fixed formulae and that it is no longer intellectual challenging once you memorise it.

    there are more things to be said, but i guess the most important thing is, you are here to play this game, so just focus on how to enjoy it, rather than accumulating so much negativities by scrutinizing the bad points. if you can\\'t help it, stop playing and find smth else.
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  4. #14
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    Umm dude... There is a chat filter, yoshi has stated it before. But the filter has to learn throughout time. You can already tell it works. That's why you see RMT spam using symbols and such now. And pretty soon the filter will adjust to that and stop that as well.
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  5. #15
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    lol you all begged for auto log out an it didnt accomplish anything there is several ways to get around it an afk for hours without logging out still, im afk right now :P
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    "Should of" is not grammatically correct. The proper use is "should have." This is commonly abbreviated to the contraction "should've."

    Same thing for "could of." The proper use is "could have" which is abbreviated to the contraction "could've."

    Flame, me, I don't care, I can't take it anymore.

    Oh, and you don't 'loose' money/subscriptions/time. You LOSE it. Loose is the opposite of tight.
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    lol you all begged for auto log out an it didnt accomplish anything there is several ways to get around it an afk for hours without logging out still, im afk right now :P
    Lol never said it was perfect, but pretty much every single way ppl avoid the auto-logout is bannable under the 'absent play' clause in the EULA/ToS. but that goes back to their self-imposed red tape they call a task Force.
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    The RMT spam was a LOT worse the first 2 weeks. Now, I only see the occasional shout or tell. They have to constantly monitor it and adapt the filter as the RMT adapt. Like I said before, it's not as simple as it sounds- they have to be careful not to block legitimate messages in the crossfire. Every game has RMT and No game can completely eliminate it. The difference between if SE was actually doing nothing like you suggest, and them doing what they ARE doing, is like night and day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocco1986 View Post
    Umm dude... There is a chat filter, yoshi has stated it before. But the filter has to learn throughout time. You can already tell it works. That's why you see RMT spam using symbols and such now. And pretty soon the filter will adjust to that and stop that as well.
    You can already tell it doesn't work, because it's easily bypassed. The filter accomplishes nothing more than a very minor inconvenience for the gold spammers.
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    It's not that easily bypassed. It's an inconvinence, not a cure, yes. No filter can block all RMT. There would be a LOT more spam if it didn't exist. Over hte past 2 weeks, i've gone from seeing several zones with multiple RMT bots spamming a million 10 line messages a minute (you can't even read them which defeats the purpose, lol RMT), to only occasionally seeing a couple messages and rarely a tell. I"m willing to wager the filters are at least catching the flooding.

    As ive said at least 3 times in this thread, its difficult to filter out anything RMT try to say without also filtering out reasonable, legitimate chat messages- so they have to be careful. they will never be able to eliminate RMT shouts completely, only reduce them.

    Just because you see a RMT chat message here and tehre, does not mean the filters aren't working. There would be A LOT, a LOOOOT more spam if they hadn't done anything all this time.
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