Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[Darlantan]

Too many of you are confused, being a nice guy I will explain this ONE LAST TIME-

But look at this way...

I am crafting and I want to manufacture X item, however, I realize I am missing one ingredient> I go to the boards and I see 10 people selling the items for 3-99 in quantity, but I don't want 3 or 99 I just want 1. Now I am forced to buy 3 or wait it out or go farm my own.

Now if I buy the 3 items I first have to pay extra for 3 items instead of 1 plus the buying fee which will also be higher since the price is higher. Then I may want or have to sell the extras for a slightly lower price but also pay a sellers fee. So I've paid taxes twice for the same item plus extra for the extra amount I don't want, and probably had to resale the item for a slightly lower price for it to sell. Not to mention the small extra time of setting that up.

Besides if the market thinks Iron ore is worth 1 gil then it's worth 1 gil. Undercutting occurs everyday even in real life. It's called, Competition, Price equilibrium, Free Markets... I can go on

Yeah you're definitely no economist, so please don't pretend you are one either.

[Bizzybeast]

But look at this way...

I am crafting and I want to manufacture X item, however, I realize I am missing one ingredient> I go to the boards and I see 10 people selling the items for 3-99 in quantity, but I don't want 3 or 99 I just want 1. Now I am forced to buy 3 or wait it out or go farm my own.

Now if I buy the 3 items I first have to pay extra for 3 items instead of 1 plus the buying fee which will also be higher since the price is higher. Then I may want or have to sell the extras for a slightly lower price but also pay a sellers fee. So I've paid taxes twice for the same item plus extra for the extra amount I don't want, and probably had to resale the item for a slightly lower price for it to sell. Not to mention the small extra time of setting that up.

Besides if the market thinks Iron ore is worth 1 gil then it's worth 1 gil. Undercutting occurs everyday even in real life. It's called, Competition, Price equilibrium, Free Markets... I can go on

Yeah you're definitely no economist, so please don't pretend you are one either.

The humor in people using real life comparisons, is how they quickly fall victim to it themselves.


For instance in real life, nothing revolves around you being mildly inconvenienced, I promise you not a single person will care. If I wanted to buy a car door and went down to the dealership, would they just rip a door off? Or would I have to go do it myself at a junkyard or pay a little extra to get exactly what i want? See how quickly it gets so silly when trying to use RL to make a point in a VIDEO GAME?


You avoided the point of my post, with good reason because I doubt anyone could remotely argue its potent logic, and simply marched on into yours. Ruining the market, because you cant be bothered to find a use for 2 extra of an item, wont fly. There will not be the 10 people selling the item, that you saw, in this terrible idea's world. There will only ever be one person selling, the lowest priced person. So this does no good for the market, only as a tool to help people buy the exact amount of something they want.

All the while, you avoided the game breaking realities im being kind enough to enlighten you about.

I didnt say undercutting was a problem, so honestly im not even sure why you went into a tirade of cliche words you thought made you sound like you had superior knowledge in an economic discussion. My point had nothing to do with what you said, honestly I dont even know what youre talking about. Fair trade laws minimize most "RL undercutting" unless youre talking about 2 street vendors going down a nickle to sell more hotdogs or something? Are you talking about selling illegal drugs to drunk teenagers? What did you think you were saying that merited such eye rolling cliche phrases?

Who knows maybe you just wanted to use equilibrium in a sentence, that I can understand, but it does nothing to soften my extremely thread ending point regarding the topic. Please do me a solid and avoid it in the future, I wouldnt have to have explained it again if not for people burying it under useless replies.

Buying specific amounts off of a stack, will not work, im sorry and good luck!

[Darlantan]

Fair trade laws? That thing has been repealed since the 70s? Yeah didn't work...

Why can't we use RL comparisons? This maybe a game but it still simulates an economy that is similar to a real economy.

Since I don't know Wth you're talking about in this last post, what I am referring to in your previous post you say that the economy is ruined because two characters price two separate stacks of Iron ore at 1 gil each. How is the economy ruined? If the seller deems his ore worth 1 gil then hey he sells it for 1 gil and if others follow through then that means the market has set a price of 1 gil for Iron ore.

If you didn't think selling Iron ore for 1 gil is worth it then simply don't mine it mine something else that worth your time and value. --continued

[Darlantan]

-- Continued

Now if the market didn't think Iron ore was worth 1 gil then person AAA and AAAA's product would sell out instantly and the price will rise then stabilize to it's true price.

I don't see how this current system works, Esp. When you're taxed TWICE because you have to resale an amount you don't need. Besides buying specific amounts works GREAT in EvE and that game's economy blows FFXIV ARR out of the water.

[Kraggy]

Why can't we use RL comparisons? This maybe a game but it still simulates an econo

This is unlike the 'real world' in several crucial ways that make such a comparison futile.

[oneshot]

Please do me a solid

Dood you are awsome just for using do me a solid lol, never heard anyone actually use this word besides on a cartoon! kudos ! and yes im being serious not trying to troll u lol