The High Grade of Immaturity is Astonishing

[Moirweyn]

Simple answer: Because some people are just assholes.

[nekochen]

This is a cultural plague that affects not just this game and other MMOs, but gaming as a whole now...no, not just gaming... America as a whole.
I see it every day. Attitudes on the road. Attitudes at the work place. Attitudes at the stores...attitudes everywhere.
There is a clear lack of respect being taught by parents and it's starting to show more and more.

Please, it's not just American, I'm Asian and I find alot of other Asian gamers repulsive.

[Riko_113]

Edit: another thing that comes to mind,"current generation" kids these days seem to get more and more cocky.

I was going to mention this myself. Aside from anonymity creating a safehaven for trolls w/o physical consequence, the younger crowd(I'm 26) is feeling more and more entitled and cocky as you say. It makes me just want to drop kick them in the chest. (The imagery makes me laugh every time)

Also, MMOs tend to drag in a crowd that has no life and look to another world to keep them occupied. The lack of contact with real people makes them crave attention akin to the class clown who doesn't mind being the "bad kid" because he likes the attention he gets from it(better than nothing).

Honestly, what people really need is to get a gym membership and get laid regularly. Also, they need to get a damn job. I admit that I love MMOs(big gamer in general) and choose to spend my free time playing games but I don't forget the real world and all it's pleasures and responsibilities.

So basically, you're 26 years old, feel those younger than you are entitled and cocky, and then you proceed to:

1) Laugh at the image of drop kicking someone in the chest
2) Generalize that MMOs draw in those who have no life (except you of course)
3) Accuse them of being attention seekers who lack contact with real people
4) Imply that they are unhealthy ("need is to get a gym membership") and are virgins ("and get laid regularly").
5) Oh, and they also don't have a job.
6) PS, you are a big gamer but totally not like those other younger people.

Frankly, I think the issue with the "community", in so much as a half million people can be considered a community, is right here. No one actually knows what they are saying.

1) It's funny, and has nothing to do with cockiness or entitlement. Look them up.
2)It does draw them in, in what world does that mean it's the majority or the only group there?
3)Take Psychology 101, this is based on case studies and again, based on a specific group that even the OP is talking about. It's not off topic.
4)That, I admit was just based on generalization of MMO population, but in a lot of cases not wrong. I work at a college and an entire floor of one of our buildings has been colonized by these type of people (who don't actually attend this college btw, they use it for the free wifi for their gaming groups and are here from the time i come in in the morning and are there when i leave so must coincidentally work overnight shifts). I see them daily.
5)Refer to number 4.
6) how much of an idiot do you have to be to argue about generalization and then have the nerve to accuse me of being like those spoiled brats by generalization that I'm a gamer? Really? Let me guess, all people who watch Anime must also be "Otaku" that wear tails and school girl outfits?

I completely agree that some people don't know what they're talking about.

[v_jones]

I was going to mention this myself... the younger crowd(I'm 26) is feeling more and more entitled and cocky as you say.

So basically, you're 26 years old, feel those younger than you are entitled and cocky, and then you proceed to:

1) Laugh at the image of drop kicking someone in the chest
2) Generalize that MMOs draw in those who have no life (except you of course)
3) Accuse them of being attention seekers who lack contact with real people
4) Imply that they are unhealthy ("need is to get a gym membership") and are virgins ("and get laid regularly").
5) Oh, and they also don't have a job.
6) PS, you are a big gamer but totally not like those other younger people.

Frankly, I think the issue with the "community", in so much as a half million people can be considered a community, is right here. No one actually knows what they are saying.

[Quesse]

Deep thought:

Which is worse, high-grade immaturity or low-grade immaturity?

[Rythless]

I'm not lecturing other Players how to behave online. That should be common sense and its just my point of view beacuse i dont get it why some people are like that.

By your own logic it should also be common sense not to aggro shit, come prepared to dungeons (i.e. not come to Titan with a GC weapon and wearing full AF), and generally learn what to do in each dungeon. I don't get why a majority of people are like that...stupid.

[cain8602]

The world(our MMO) would be a better place if everyone just got along and shared their shinies... and knowledge! Nothing is a bigger relief to a player new to a dungeon than an experienced player who is willing to give them outlines. =3

I go out of my way to talk to people and make friends whenever I can. The way I see it, it's always better for everyone to make friends instead of making enemies.

It would be nice if people would think before they speak. Just think, "How would I feel if someone said this to me?" If the answer is "Not too good" then don't say it.

I blame bad parenting for the people who are like that ALL THE TIME, and bad days for the people who just every once in a while explode on someone.

Life is a giant cookie, share it!

Mmmm... giant cookie...

*shakes head*

I'm sorry. What were you saying?

[Evilized]

Don't party with random idiots and it is less likely you will be yelled at / abused.

DF is swarmed with kids and bad players who like to use it in order to vent their miserable life's frustrations onto others. Use DF as a last resort. Think of it like a parachute. You never want to have to use it, but when there's no other option you can close your eyes and pull the cord (or hit queue).

[Hed]

Hell, I don't use the DF now because of bad players. I would much rather run the content with people I know. I've even decided to run back through the earlier dungeons for gear for other classes. Although Iv'e found out that this won't be a problem once I get each one to 50 because I can just buy darklight for my other classes that I saved the tomestones for by running with my first 50.

I'm not mean to players but when they won't listen and keep getting the party killed enough becomes enough and I leave.

[Scratchs]

It seems to me the community at endgame tanks. I have not met a party yet that was not a pleasure to play with, even if we wiped. Yet I hear all the self entitled a-holes moaning that their speedrunning exploit got fixed and that they may get their gear rolled back for exploiting Titan HM. Kinda not looking forward to the endgame if it's that toxic. Maybe in a month it will level off as free periods start ending soon.

Yep, same here I've met about one group post 50 that I enjoyed to play with. They're either cry baby elitist or boring hardcore dud's that don't say a word the entire run. Ifrit HM took me 40 runs to get my sword, and I promised myself I'm done with primals. I'm waiting for primals to be nerfed or better gear to be accessible, before proceeding further into EG. Call me casual but primals and AK are in no way fun and are an exercise in bordem and frustration.