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  1. #21
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    Eylev Anastos
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm going to switch over WAR to try it out.. Many of us keep complaining about tanking less than a PLD but as a WAR is about as a sub tank and can dish a good amount of damage than PLD while at tanking.. Thought it might sound weird, a WAR job is harder to control than PLD and it's more effective to use in 8man dungeons due to dangerous bosses and adds.. As 4man dungeons, be it whether is PLD or WAR, both should be able to complete it smoothly..
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  2. #22
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    Lotarion Ninefingers
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    Moogle
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    With Sword Oath Paladin is both better main and off tank.
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  3. #23
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    Kyzr Aegis
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eylev View Post
    I'm going to switch over WAR to try it out.. Many of us keep complaining about tanking less than a PLD but as a WAR is about as a sub tank and can dish a good amount of damage than PLD while at tanking.. Thought it might sound weird, a WAR job is harder to control than PLD and it's more effective to use in 8man dungeons due to dangerous bosses and adds.. As 4man dungeons, be it whether is PLD or WAR, both should be able to complete it smoothly..
    WARs do around 5% more damage than a PLD.
    Since they take 20% more MP and GCDs to heal, one could argue that if healers spend the time saved healing a PLD by doing damage, that a PLD is actually a net-gain in DPS for a group.

    WARs struggle with burst DPS. Inner Beast does not make up the difference of Rampart, Sentinel, Bulwark, and Shield Oath combined.
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  4. #24
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    Voraxxis Kader
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Already a 48 PLD after doing WAR 50 first. Once I hit 50 PLD, I won't be using WAR for much of anything. PLD is just better at this point in the game and sadly, it's not even close. I'd love to see the Dev footage of them using WAR on these hard hitting bosses in Coil.
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    Poh Poi
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotarion View Post
    With Sword Oath Paladin is both better main and off tank.
    Sadly... this is so true... my War is on the back burner til 2nd job classes come out, hoping they give mauraders Samurai or beastmaster when you play both War and Pld u can definitely notice the difference.
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  6. #26
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    Kyzr Aegis
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Voraxxis View Post
    Already a 48 PLD after doing WAR 50 first. Once I hit 50 PLD, I won't be using WAR for much of anything. PLD is just better at this point in the game and sadly, it's not even close. I'd love to see the Dev footage of them using WAR on these hard hitting bosses in Coil.
    I'm willing to bet they playtested Coil with Coil~tier gear. Blizzard admitted they took this approach until WotLK, and had to change their thinking in order to properly tune the Raid-Finder.
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  7. #27
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    Averrasu D'onvian
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Why do people use the term "reroll?" Are you creating wholly new characters? That just seems silly. That being said, I've leveled both GLD/PLD and MRD/WAR to 50. I'll play whichever fits the situation or whichever is most fun for me. So far, WAR has been a blast, but I'm not in the super end game content. Next up are the healer jobs.
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  8. #28
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    Kyzr Aegis
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaloran View Post
    Why do people use the term "reroll?" Are you creating wholly new characters? That just seems silly. That being said, I've leveled both GLD/PLD and MRD/WAR to 50. I'll play whichever fits the situation or whichever is most fun for me. So far, WAR has been a blast, but I'm not in the super end game content. Next up are the healer jobs.
    Does reroll even make sense for creating new characters?

    The phrase is a "hand-me-down" from table top gaming, where you would ask a DM if you could "reroll" your base stats if they were particularly bad, or for that matter, anything you didn't like. It made it's way into RPGs, and MMORPGs specifically, because often character race played a part in stat effectiveness (FFXI as well).

    In this context, it's meant to capture the mindset of changing roles. I'll always have my WAR job and my gear for him, but I'm pretty much done with it until SE addresses it's game-breaking flaws; Thus, a change in mindset. A "reroll".
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  9. #29
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    Th'zud Strum
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    Lamia
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    Marauder Lv 40
    The sad part is, SE doesn't see anything wrong with WAR as end game Tanks. Stubborn devs will end up hurting this game.
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  10. #30
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    Shyle Katriss
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I'm staying on my War, but I'm also leveling up Brd (32), Drg (35), Mnk (19/20) and ACN (16 going to smn). I won't level a pld or cnj, those two classes don't interest me one bit.
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