A community worse than WOW's?

[MXMoondoggie]

Well i guess it's a whole lot of extra work for a minor issue. Ideally i guess you want story cut scenes turned off for second runs and beyond but for people to have cut scenes and queue only with people doing story quest runs you'd have a lot longer wait to finish a story quest.

[Fuz]

Well i guess it's a whole lot of extra work for a minor issue. Ideally i guess you want story cut scenes turned off for second runs and beyond but for people to have cut scenes and queue only with people doing story quest runs you'd have a lot longer wait to finish a story quest.

Exactly.
You cannot keep people stuck on a story quest because of eternal queues.

The tomestones are there for this rason: To encourage people to run it and help the ones with the story.

[Veurr]

How would they be stuck they would have the option to join a skip the cutscene group and fufill the objectives of their quest. Then watch the cutscenes in the inn later.

[Veurr]

I can't accurately snip from my phone so.

@ruprect
I guess I don't understand why they feel the need to do the bosses basically they get a free run of the place, wwtch the cutscenes get their tomes. Go home and get ready to run it 49 more times.

If SE didn't force us to have a full 8 for the dungeons we would just go with what we had when we were missing people from the static. We sometimes play at weird hours or are just too lazy to fill with people from RT. I've never had a raid finder player complain about getting carried though. Must be a new mmo phenomenon

[Gray_Spy]

I can't accurately snip from my phone so.

@ruprect
I guess I don't understand why they feel the need to do the bosses basically they get a free run of the place, wwtch the cutscenes get their tomes. Go home and get ready to run it 49 more times.

If SE didn't force us to have a full 8 for the dungeons we would just go with what we had when we were missing people from the static. We sometimes play at weird hours or are just too lazy to fill with people from RT. I've never had a raid finder player complain about getting carried though. Must be a new mmo phenomenon

I effectively solo tanked CM the entire way through because our second tank disconnected. I had mostly Darklight accessories at the time and no Darklight chest/helm leg/feet combos.

[ApolloGenX]

I always tell people to leave the people watching scenes alone. Everyone has a first run... and we all know that after that run, it is non-stop farming- so good Lerd let them enjoy at least ONE run of the place. Besides, the story is the best part.

[Talin]

I agree with the OP about the community. It is a lot worse than I had imagined.. I guess because I played FFXI for a few years and the community was the best I have ever seen. Luckily I'm pretty good and can figure stuff out quickly so nobody has ever been rude to me, but the poor people that can't just get berated by others. It's like nobody has the time or patience to explain things to anyone. I'm just the little BLM DD but I am always be polite and explain things to others and have no problem taking up for them.

You can form a speed run using /sh in minutes. If you want one do that. Don't use DF then toss a bitch fit over someone wanting to see the CS for the first time, it's an exciting part of the story for most.

[BlossomRose]

People who use the Duty Finder need to be ready to deal with cutscenes.

The end.

If you want a speedrun, make a premade group. Don't screw the game up for new players trying to experience the story.

Worst-case? Watch the cutscenes. Sit back and let everyone finish the dungeon for you while you watch the cutscenes. It's not your problem if people don't wait for you.

[Sinth]

I agree with the OP about the community. It is a lot worse than I had imagined.. I guess because I played FFXI for a few years and the community was the best I have ever seen. Luckily I'm pretty good and can figure stuff out quickly so nobody has ever been rude to me, but the poor people that can't just get berated by others. It's like nobody has the time or patience to explain things to anyone...

Unfortunately XIV caters to casuals and doesn't make you absolutely dependent on others to get anything done at every step of the way. XI's community was so good simply because if you weren't able to build working relationships, you could not progress. Its not that FFXIV's community is worse than WoW's, it is that it IS WoW's. When you allow casuals to skate by then they expect to skate by and any time they cannot, they get upset. Whereas, if you set a standard of difficulty and team reliance, you foster an environment of teamwork.

[Zeopher]

This is not wow. Is a final fantasy game.