About the Amdapor Keep's Demon Wall ninja nerfs

[Valsh]

This is another slight perversion of reality. The fact of the matter is if players have begun to dread a zone it is their own fault, not SE's for lack of content.

Come on man, you can't say that with a straight face.

[ChickensEvil]

This is another slight perversion of reality. The fact of the matter is if players have begun to dread a zone it is their own fault, not SE's for lack of content.

Hate to say it, but you are stuck with pretty much three options. AK farming if you need the tomes AND the greens (if you just hit 50), garuda if you just need the tomes, and CM once you cap out myth tomes for the week. The fact that you HAVE to run CM 18 times to get the chest alone is just terrible (and even worse if you are trying to farm something else). Nevermind trying to get darklight EVERYTHING. It gets old and boring very fast. I think what the guy mentioning the sleepwalk, was more about how easy and boring content gets instead of focusing on the specific amount of time spent. (And AK pop's might be fast for you, but even with a full group, during prime time, I am still waiting a solid 20-30 minutes. That time counts against the overall time spent since it is time spent waiting that you are certainly NOT farming up gear...)

Even IF the other 2 dungeons were viable (WP is really only ran for gil farming... and Pratorium might* be better than CM if you have a full 8 man, but if one person is watching the CS then forgetaboutit) the sheer amount of runs you have to do, just to get full darklight is a bit over the top. At this point is has the mental challenge and equivalent of grinding open world mobs for xp... I would almost rather do that and get tomes somehow then to rely on stupid people to get a smooth run through AK/CM/Garuda... Neither situation is hard... one just requires you to rely on others to not be retarded.

[Gray_Spy]

The fight was really difficult for our group as fresh 50's. We could not beat it at all. This was really disappointing and head banging. Literally we wiped on it like a raid boss for hours, because we did not have enough DPS or gear to beat the wall, or farm AK to get gear. After the nerf , we can easily do it. I enjoy this fight very much and the mechanics are cool, but the bees were just stupid before (damage wise).

[Siuling]

Gamepad players DO have an huge disadvantage compared to keyboard+mouse players.

i play on controller, i beat ifrit, garuda on it no problem, i don't really see a disadvantage since console player can get a keyboard too. sure you have more APM on a keyboard + mouse, but i don't think the game actually demands an amount of APM which controllers can't achieve to succeed.

[Zanther]

i play on controller, i beat ifrit, garuda on it no problem,

Ifrit and Garuda are easy enough to the point I can eat my dinner with the other hand while using a keyboard and mouse....

Our raid refuses anyone with a controller for anything above titan.

[MorbidAngel]

Our raid refuses anyone with a controller for anything above titan.

Sounds like a bunch of nerds if you ask me...

[dragonflyseksparade]

Sounds like a bunch of nerds if you ask me...

I can't tell if that was intended to be a compliment or put-down.

[MorbidAngel]

I can't tell if that was intended to be a compliment or put-down.

It was actually neither, I was generalizing just like him and his FC do..

[saber_alter]

just did my first run on ampador. only 1 wipe from this boss.

that was boring. only 2 adds, and void spots took forever to even hurt someone.

didn't even have to lb. not that it mattered, seeing how the team consisted of me (a undergeared tank), 2 geared archers, and a conjurer.

[Zeopher]

You have not used the gamepad in a computer i think. Try it and comment later!