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  1. #11
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    sQQuare's Avatar
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    Red Robin
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    You are all wrong about the 1-50 game being to easy, only game ever being hard was EQ and that was flawed.

    1-50 in FFXIV is as hard as you will find in any modern MMO today.

    Could it be harder? perhaps but it would not serve any purpose and only alienate many of the base players.

    Given if all you do is FATE then there isnt much in terms of gameplay, but the 1-50 storyline is perfectly adequate of serving as an education in playing your class.

    If you played conjuror till 50 only using aero never having healed thats a choice you made by only doing FATEs and i am pretty sure the fault lies with you not the game.

    I must say of all MMOs I tried, i was happy once i reached 50 to say i played to 50 NOT leveled to 50, instances, TRIALS, leves, FATES, Guildhests etc made me learn my char and class very well.

    I dont find FFXIV "hard" but I find it provides an adequate challange that when put besides its counterparts could even be considered hard.
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  2. #12
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    Aldora's Avatar
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by sQQuare View Post
    Could it be harder? perhaps but it would not serve any purpose and only alienate many of the base players.

    Given if all you do is FATE then there isnt much in terms of gameplay, but the 1-50 storyline is perfectly adequate of serving as an education in playing your class.

    If you played conjuror till 50 only using aero never having healed thats a choice you made by only doing FATEs and i am pretty sure the fault lies with you not the game.

    I must say of all MMOs I tried, i was happy once i reached 50 to say i played to 50 NOT leveled to 50, instances, TRIALS, leves, FATES, Guildhests etc made me learn my char and class very well.
    My thoughts exactly. Veteran MMO players might think the game is (too) easy, but a player who new to the genre might think otherwise.

    I would suggest doing every dungeon you can. One of the reasons why is that I thought that the Sunken Temple of Qairn was very tricky, but also very fun to do.
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  3. #13
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    While I'm not new to MMOs, a friend of mine who is playing is.

    He is overwhelmed by everything. There's a lot he didn't get; things that are common knowledge to all of us who have played a lot, were completely foreign to him. I had to explain things I learned more than 10 years ago and have become second nature to me.

    If Yoshi-P was targeting non-MMO players, I'm not sure how well he succeeded. This game seems to be in an uncomfortable rut. It's more complex than people give it credit for, but it's not quite simple enough that just anyone can pick it up.
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  4. #14
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    Tsukino's Avatar
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Adamantoise
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisCaelus View Post
    Yoshida said 1 through 50 is a guide for end game so he made it easier especially since his target audience were gamers that were new to MMOs.
    The problem here is that these two things are completely antithetical to each other. People who are new to MMOs don't give two shits about endgame or how long it takes them to get there.
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  5. #15
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    Krisan's Avatar
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    Character
    Krisan Thyme
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    To be fair.. level 50 isn't meant to stay as the level cap indefinitely. In fact it might increase in a couple of months even. We're at least going to see a cap raise to 99 before the game is truly over, and although that might be years away for all we know.. 1-50 being designed easier than some MMO's is probably completely intentional. Have to broaden your views beyond the current narrow scope of the game and consider how much it's going to change.. I mean hell, we haven't even quite hit the one month mark yet...
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  6. #16
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    klepp0906's Avatar
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    Kevin Kristopher
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Waaaay too dumbed down. First the gear roulette. Now the echo buff. Anyone else seen similar systems before?

    Yep! you got it! wow!! Incoming welfare epics (nm already have those) incoming dailies! (ack, those are here too)

    Im not really sure what makes wow bad that FFXIV hasnt already taken/used. AH system, duty finder, instancing, instant travel, no death penalty... its exactly what the wow kids wanted. An updated prettier wow 2.

    Any purists out there, does the name Brad McQuaid mean anything to you? Good, now head over to kick starter and check out Pantheon. Its what Vanguard would have been had kickstarter been around :P McQuaids new game directed directly at us as per his directive to the supporters.
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  7. #17
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    klepp0906's Avatar
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    Kevin Kristopher
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Hardest part will be being patient. I already donated 100 dollars. Will stay here to enjoy all the satisfaction that comes from being right... and to kill time, but just like wow kept me around for much longer than it should have due to no alternatives.. this will likely do the same.

    to the OP, in short.. Yes! of course! Compare FFXI to this. I bet the Japs are having conniptions as we speak. Perhap's id fit in better there. Today's kids/generation are so entitled and emasculated.. its all about rude, selfish, instnat gratification.

    /rant off

    (had to split up last post due to 1000 character limit. WTH?! GL writing a guide or tutorial or anything analytical /sigh)
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  8. #18
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    Blissa's Avatar
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    What this game really lacks is exploration. There is not a whole lot to see and do and its way to easy to get around. And you can get around with almost no fear of death.
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  9. #19
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    Gilgamesh-Merodach's Avatar
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    Gilgamesh Merodach
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by 3Jane View Post
    They had the low level dungeon length / challenge just right in Beta-P3. Easy enough for new players but enough difficulty to push people into learning things, which is I thought the whole point of those level dungeons etc. I think they made the mistake of assuming that difficulty is frustrating so they removed a lot of it, but difficulty can also be fun and that is the element which has been stripped away in the final versions of Tam Tara, To To Rak, Hauk Mannor etc.

    Because~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the beta forums experienced a flash flood of OMG TOO HARD PLZ NERF for the longest of times *cough beta 3 cough cough*


    There was a time when even the class quest had guides made specifically for them. Most of the advise in return even included *level up more before trying again*

    *sad face* but at the very least a lot more are enjoying this game perhaps.
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  10. #20
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    Demetirus's Avatar
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    Demetirus Iludan
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 57
    This is one heck of a necro. o.o

    Also: you can go back and edit an existing post to get around the 1k limit. No need to multi-post!

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