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  1. #61
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    Evilized's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    And everybody already had DL and stuff when they started to speedrun. Right.
    nope, but a lot of people do now, and those are the people i will be bringing on my runs. sorry if that makes you feel excluded but that's not really my problem. put the time in to get better gear if you want to speed run but aren't getting any invites.

    and why does this even matter to you, when the speed runs are filled in town by willing participants? nobody in their right mind will join a DF run and expect it to go fast.
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  2. #62
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Seriously, why do you care so much if somebody does a dungeon fast?
    You mean aside from the understandable concern that such an idiotic mentality would catch on, not unlike the people who convinced themselves dragoons were gimps in FFXI simply because they were not getting full TP returns on pentathrust?

    People are gear-checking a story mode dungeon because it happens to reward allaghan tomestones. The devs expected people to be reasonable and unfortunately we've been found wanting. It's like the people that leave AK runs if you have a DPS or healer that's never done it before.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    You mean aside from the understandable concern that such an idiotic mentality would catch on, not unlike the people who convinced themselves dragoons were gimps in FFXI simply because they were not getting full TP returns on pentathrust?

    People are gear-checking a story mode dungeon because it happens to reward allaghan tomestones. The devs expected people to be reasonable and unfortunately we've been found wanting. It's like the people that leave AK runs if you have a DPS or healer that's never done it before.
    People are gearchecking because they are building a group to run that story mode dungeon as fast as they can. Its their private group.

    Last I checked, you still had duty finder available, thus effecting you in no way whatsoever. Did you cry when someone wouldn't let you join their private club growing up as well?

    And dragoons were shit in ffxi for the longest time. 2 hour cooldown on summon wyrm and shit tp gain vs a sam? Nice try trying to use that though.
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    Last edited by Zanther; 09-22-2013 at 09:17 AM.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanther View Post
    And dragoons were shit in ffxi for the longest time. Nice try trying to use that though.
    Heh if you wanna talk design, DRG's problem was that wyverns could be one-shot by getting sneezed on by mobs and while palty, it was damage that went to the DRG's overall DPS (not mentioning Call Wyvern was their 2-hour ability...). The main catalyst of the "DRG is gimp" thing was the pentathrust nerf.
    People are gearchecking because they are building a group to run that story mode dungeon as fast as they can.
    Doesn't make it any less ludicrous. You're starting to get people creeping on to level cap and they're going to want to do CM so they can continue with the main storyline, and other players on their servers (also, don't think the issues are server-exclusive; dury finder is also seeing drama over it) who should at least show some patience aren't helping them. The whole thing defeats the purpose of the "community" we're supposed to be building if we can't even work with the up and coming players to get them through the main story.

    The funny part is that putting allaghan tomes in CM was most likely a way to get players who are gearing up for CoB/CT to join groups that may have people who are still working their way towards the end of the main story..
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    ...

    "Looking for more for speedrun" =/= dutyfinder/"looking for more store mode" ???

    There is nothing wrong with this at all. Not only are you QQing, you're trying to tell people how they should play with the money the spent.
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    Last edited by Zanther; 09-22-2013 at 09:52 AM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanther View Post
    "Looking for more for speedrun" =/= dutyfinder/"looking for more store mode"?
    Way to miss my saying that duty-finder is also subject to this sort of drama, and the inability to kick people aggravates things on both ends.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  7. #67
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    This nonsense makes me sorely tempted to move to the Japanese servers.
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  8. #68
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    I promise you, that 90% of the time your party isn't "speed running" because someone is afk or not paying attention. Not because someone has a gearscore of 60 instead of 70.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    This nonsense makes me sorely tempted to move to the Japanese servers.
    Where they will boot you just for being American.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanther View Post
    Where they will boot you just for being American.
    Unless the Japanese community has changed, I've never had it happen in 8 years of FFXI if you at least make an attempt to speak Japanese or use the Auto-Translate.
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