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Thread: BRD Limit Break

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    BRD Limit Break

    Hello,

    While doing some Amdapor runs as PLD with my BRD brother using duty finder, we had 5 instances where we would pick up another BRD as our second DD. Each time this happened we would have extreme difficulty beating the wall boss, because the bard job doesnt have a DD limit break in order to down one of the fly mobs like when you have any other DD job. My question is why didn't SE see to it that BRD be able to chose between the healing LB or the DD LB? I hate to be the guy that leaves a run ( I feel terrible leaving a PT as a PLD ) because the run will be either really time consuming or nearly impossible with a regular two BRD PT ( I have beat the mob with two bards but both were fully DL geared ) I can see that BRD is a DD/Support job, so why not have them be able to do both LB?
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    if both bards have ifrit weapon and mostly ilvl50+ gear they should have no issues downing the bees without lb's.

    If bards had the single target DD LB then you would always bring like 3 bards to any raid because they'd be so OP. They already are the easiest class to use and deal great damage in addition to having great utility. Overall, bards don't need any buff, at all.
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    Stunning the bee's AoE goes a looooooooooooooooong way too. Your Blunt Arrow attack (silence) will do the trick.
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    Never had such issue on the wall. Either both bard are under geared for AK or they are not playing well.
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    I felt like its because the devs wanted to at least give one reason to pick another dps class for your group :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatara_Locklear View Post
    if both bards have ifrit weapon and mostly ilvl50+ gear they should have no issues downing the bees without lb's.

    If bards had the single target DD LB then you would always bring like 3 bards to any raid because they'd be so OP. They already are the easiest class to use and deal great damage in addition to having great utility. Overall, bards don't need any buff, at all.
    I can see your point but the point I was making is that when you have two BRDs being the DD's to an intermediate dungeon that drops the gear and seals necessary for those jobs to advance in other harder dungeons I personally don't like being judgmental about someone having gear not above ilvl50. I also get what your'e saying about if they had the DDLB people would chose them as opposed to any other DD for raids. I don't see this being a buff to BRD inside a duty finder dungeon. Maybe a fix would be that inside duty finder BRD can chose the type of LB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    Stunning the bee's AoE goes a looooooooooooooooong way too. Your Blunt Arrow attack (silence) will do the trick.
    This is very true. There are ways to beat it with a lot of strategy and its better that these BRD's learn all their skills ( which I dont know ). I usually have to ( as PLD ) get the Flies hate and wait for the BRD's to down them. Two outcomes happen. either the healer dies or runs out of MP, or we beat it with very little HP left. I dont want the wall to be easier than it already is. But I think that if a party is created in duty finder and two BRD's are picked up at random, would it be that hard to give BRD the option to do the DDLB also?
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    There are similar situations like Ifrit Hm being very hard to beat if you dont have a mage limit. This doesnt mean that every DD should have an additional AOE LB, rather maybe the DF just shouldnt build parties without those classes to begin with.

    The DF actually prioritizes to give one dps slot to a melee and the other to a range dps, i feel for some dungeons it might help if this was mandatory, i dont think the queue times would be that much longer.
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    lol cause BRD needs MORE? Get real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Layenem View Post
    lol cause BRD needs MORE? Get real.
    BRD is good that's true but if your'e in DF and you get two random DD's and they are both BRD's the chances of beating the wall on AK drops dramatically, again not impossible, and I don't wish for a free win. But when it comes down to randomly finding members and it happens that no member in that pt has a DD LB that specific mob becomes hit or miss at best. The point of DF is to put characters together without MUCH discrimination, and being that the choices are "Hey dude sorry but we already have a BRD we are leaving" or lets wipe 7 times until we all get frustrated and leave, giving BRD the DDLB seems like something SE could do in order to make this GAME more enjoyable.
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