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  1. #31
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    Aleksandr's Avatar
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    Syaoran Nailo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    If they increased the cap:
    1) Then people who have enough time, can get everything all that much sooner (in a week instead of a month). There is simply not enough content yet to keep them fully occupied until 2.1, so they introduce a 'pacing' mechanism for them to keep comming back.

    In other words, the cap serves two limits: Forced pacing in lieu of minimal content AND prevent great disparity in achievements between very active and semi active players. In addition the low cap (versus a scaled out higher/unlimited cap) prevents us from complaining of endless grinding to get tomes.
    Honestly speaking this game for me is just that. A game. It is a hobby in how a spend my free time. If I cannot spend my free time doing what I want to do I find other things to do. It is not an incentive for me to keep coming back because my play time is interrupted by a feature which simply causes me to play longer without granting more content.

    I craft when I want to craft. A cap in farming tomes does not cause me to say: Oh no I want to craft now because no new tomes for me. It doesn't make me rush to level up a new character. It will cause me to turn the game off and read a book, go back to other games I haven't beaten (Shadowrun) maybe design a level for a game myself (I love that about Neverwinter Online).

    Note: I am not one who grinds AK I find that boring so I won't reach cap each week, unless I happen to run a lot of Primals, I have been having fun running them, Stone Vigil, & Wander's Palace. I got burnt out on CM and I have a family member to run it with so don't want to push it to much. I just believe in I should not have an artificial cap in game progression.
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  2. #32
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    Shig Kalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor- View Post
    I agree with you if I can play for 16hours a day and want to get everything when I want I should be allowed to do so im paying for the game.
    Then grind all day and get all HQ 5 socketed ilvl 70 crafted gear. No ones stopping you. Just because AF2s are locked doesnt mean you can't progress if you really want to.
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  3. #33
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shigaru View Post
    Then grind all day and get all HQ 5 socketed ilvl 70 crafted gear. No ones stopping you. Just because AF2s are locked doesnt mean you can't progress if you really want to.
    currently AF2 is more like a reward for people who played long enough to serve as proof they have put time and effort into the game in the long term.

    If people want the strongest gear in the game fast then they will want the Allagan set from the high endgame content like in Bahamut and maybe in Crystal Tower.

    Still I wish there was another method to get a different AF look set.

    maybe later add a Vanity NPC that sells special Vanity AF gear sets that have different look from AF1 and AF2.

    These Vanity AF sets maybe quite popular since they provide different look to separate people and to prevent the majority of people from having only AF1 look.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 09-21-2013 at 03:27 PM.

  4. #34
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    The cap makes no intuitive sense other than prolonging content to allow for the developers to make more. I don't really care, they're not the first game to do it, but I honestly think most people would play more if there were no cap. People would spam AK for AF2, then spam Coil for overlapping but superior Allagan pieces. I think putting iLVL 90 gear on a token system was stupid to begin with regardless. 80 sure, but the 90 stuff should be achieved for being competent in Coil.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfgang View Post
    The cap makes no intuitive sense other than prolonging content to allow for the developers to make more. I don't really care, they're not the first game to do it, but I honestly think most people would play more if there were no cap. People would spam AK for AF2, then spam Coil for overlapping but superior Allagan pieces. I think putting iLVL 90 gear on a token system was stupid to begin with regardless. 80 sure, but the 90 stuff should be achieved for being competent in Coil.
    I wouldn't call Allagan set superior because stats are the same as AF2 but bonus stats setup is made differently.

    AF2 is more job role focused. For example, Paladins and Warriors will want the AF2 set to tank better but Allagan stat bonus is more utility based.
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  6. #36
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    Star Polaris
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    well, if you want level 90 gear as fast as YOU want, then go clear Bahamuts Coil? if you want easy mode level 90 gear then you gotta stick with myth tokens that takes a pretty long time, you have a choice.
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  7. #37
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandr View Post
    I just believe in I should not have an artificial cap in game progression.
    You are playing the wrong genres of games - MMOs artificially cap you so they don't die out within 2 weeks of launch. While it doesn't save some MMOs, in general caps and limitations are there for a reason, don't like it or feel like it shouldn't be, thousands of single player games out there for you that aren't in the MMO category.

    As for the topic, if it did raise at all, it'd be:

    500 Cap per Week
    Every AF2 item costs 920+ now
    Relic+1 Item would be 700 each.

    Even if the OP was half serious I'd really hope no one would think they'd raise the points pumped out and left the rewards untouched.
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  8. #38
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    Kiki Kirei
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    Yeah they should totally like not cap and just hand over gear because most are too lazy to get. This isn't WoW, not all MMO's will hand you gear and give you what you want if you bitch enough. They made a cap for a reason as most pointed out. Earn the gear like everyone else and stop complaining cause I highly doubt they will change it. It's not hard to get Relic or full DL. But it doesn't mean just because you pay for this game it means you're entitled to get ilvl90 gear. You pay to play and keep the servers running and such, you aren't entitled to much else. Sorry to be blunt but the qqing is unbearable over something so dumb.
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  9. #39
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    Astralis Luneglade
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    As you can see, unlike WoW who is 100% devoted to their subscribers, se doesnt really care.

    They place cap so players are forced to wait months to comolete set. They will be forced to subsribe. Raising the cap only means we get the items we want faster and thus they need to make new contents faster as well. But judging se from the previous issues from this game. They do not care and will never do about the players. They are too lazy to fix server issues what more add new content?
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  10. #40
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralis View Post
    As you can see, unlike WoW who is 100% devoted to their subscribers, se doesnt really care.
    I think you took a wrong turn somewhere -

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/

    I believe you meant to go there?

    They place cap so players are forced to wait months to comolete set. They will be forced to subsribe.
    The irony about this is there's much more content in the game and the whole Mythology Tomes is literally only 0.5% of the game's content - even the dungeon you run it is tied to Grand Company Progression, something that requires no Mythology Tomes.

    They are too lazy to fix server issues what more add new content?
    Even though you glorified Blizzard and WoW for being devoted to their subs, major content for WoW doesn't come out that fast either.
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